I made it to legend after 10 years

Is that how that works? Or is perhaps this:

In 2014, 0.5% of the population that reached legend used decktracker.
In 2024, 19.3% of the population that reached legend used decktracker.

Not only that. In 2014 more people barely knew the rules of the game. E.g. the poster you replied to implied that the skill was similar which is absolutely ludicrous since even that poster’s experience is extremely higher in the game now.

I can confirm that it used to be 2k people in legend and now we have up to 30k but I also don’t think that 30k people represent 20% of the whole player base.

But can it be tracker data? I don’t remember any trackers in 2014

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I started using decktracker very early, I think the game was only 3-4 months old then.

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Well that settles it, then

Those are tracker data only

If you are below Diamond rank without bonus stars, 90% or more of your opponents are actual player bots using starter cards and bad decks.

It has never been easier to get to Diamond in the history of this game and the HSReplay stats for those ranks reflects it.

You understand the dramatic and precipitous drop in deck win rates from Diamond and below is more about the absence of bots than any player skill?

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say anyone who can’t get to D10 right now is really, really, really not doing it correctly. It’s literally as easy as controlling early minion push/trading to clear their board and then they have no draw. From turn five or so they have no cards in hand and you win easily.

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At one point in 2014 the numbers were blizzard numbers, so they were unrelated to deck trackers.

I definitely happened to me in Wild(was doing achievements there). I didn’t want to go to D10 but I went passively. Only 1 of the decks I was going through was barely Tier 3 or 4(I was rotating dozens of decks) and most other decks I was playing were just bad so it appeared impossible to not go D10 or 5 if you tried a little.

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Happy for you. Good job!

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So then we are looking at no information at all, right?

0.5% of the players who tried playing the game reached legend - 2014
20% of the players that bothered to install decktratcker reached legend - 2024

There is no valid conclusion to be based on this.

Well, the 2014 information was direct from Blizzard and didn’t involve deck trackers at all. So no to that part.

Yes to the second part. There is the possibility of selection bias because the population is everyone and the sample is people who’ve downloaded the tracker. That said, it might still be representative of the whole, but it’s honestly probably a high estimate.

One thing we know for certain: when the new Ranked system debuted, the number of players who made Legend in both Standard and Wild, across multiple servers, multiplied approximately eightfold. The rank system change in April 2020 made Legend 8 times easier by itself.

The reasonable range is that Legend is at least ten times easier than it originally was, and at most twenty times easier.

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Maybe you’re right.

Looking at it from another perspective, I remember watching streams back in the day, with he statement ‘how deep is the dumpster’ it was found that around 8000 people were at legend rank by the end of the month.

If that now is a much higher number, and we also have information of how many people are actually playing, we could take a better look at it.

Just need to find someone who bothers to get legend, and the lose 200 times on purpose :stuck_out_tongue:

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Way to go. congrats!!

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Deck tracker is great, but unfortunately still doesn’t help with a game heavily dependent on RNG.

It’s not a valid comparison because of the data.

You can’t compare hard data from blizzard and the bot infested trash hole the game is now.

Just pushing up the ranks on bots is going to radically change how many people get to legend because the grind just isn’t what it used to be.

Changes to the ladder also had a huge impact on getting to legend. It’s much easier than it once was.

why did you wait 10 years to just make a cheese rush deck and climb? lol . cheer though. its a god awful climb.

Plague DK looks like fun to me, havent played it though. It really does not look as dumb to me as the old pirate warrior for example (but probably nothing ever was, so how fair of a comparisson am I making).

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It’s easy enough to play, and hard to master

And there’s soo many different versions out there, that I’m pretty sure 2 people never think about the same deck when they say “Plague DK”

Mine runs like 6-7 leggos less than the official one and definitely doesn’t run excavation package.

If you need azerite rat to finish the game, you’re playing it wrong xD

They sure picked a guy to mess around with. This came over the teletype a few minutes ago: John Rambo is a Vietnam vet. He’s a Green Beret, Congressional Medal of Honor. Guy’s a war hero!

…or so I heard.

Congrats Rambo!

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Not sure what you’re up to. Probably nothing too constructive.

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