I just love current hearthstone it a joke

No wonder Hearthstone in a down hill spiral and blizzard was force to sell because they so much in the hole all you need to do is look at current state of game and others.

It like took what any little skill was in the game and toss it out the window and dumb it down so much. All you need do is watch this and see what wrong with this.

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I just love current hearthstone it a joke

Always has been.

But yeah YGO Master Duel is great. Before that my card game focus was mainly on YGO Legacy of the Duelist, but with Master Duel being free, there’s a lot more people to play against. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

An incredibly necessary progression system?
yea right that’s some total b (the video pitched progression changes as a good thing lol).

The old system was absolutely perfect except for new players.
big exception, and there were other ways to help new players not get discouraged than to completely…you know…erase any ladder achievement feeling or goal of getting legend.

They erased the whole penalty for losing on ladder.
currently the penalty for losing a match in ladder is like not a factor bc floors everyhwere and star bonuses magnified.

So no the whole restructure was game ruining w/o a doubt.
it was not a necessary progression add on.

here’s a good top 10 mistakes / reasons hs isn’t fun much anymore.

  1. Ladder restructure, paring off mmr not rank, no risk, no reward to matches.

  2. Arena is pooled, it is mind numbingly boring after you play a lot of arena and know all the wanted cards and CAN’T play around many of them bc the cost of holding a card for playing around say bunker sergeant or so is…losing the match bc you dont have some constructed deck with mana cheat and board clears and or removal and so forth and draw. Arena is a small, small, tiny pool of the cards in the game and its THE SAME cards match after match nothings new about it regardless of opponent’s class. Blizz earlier pitched the pooling of arena as “now you can play around x and y card! and show off your arena skill before you couldnt” and…we can’t play around cards much bc even if we assume they have it what we gonna do pass on like turn 5 and lose the match so we played around fishy flyer or something? Like, come on blizz, open arena back up stop slamming it’s doors shut like you did.

  3. Blizz redid this core set to be like this nobody knows for sure what’s core whats not when we used to have them all memorized, and, its subject to annual change so learning the new core cards isnt beneficial towards the end of the hs year. so its just a confusing mess when redoing core set made us lose our familiarity with the game we built for over 5 years too big a cost for the lofty goal.

  4. Blizz handed out a TON of not only gold cards but double cards for free. Now, non gold handing out is wise, handing out gold is not wise at all that is so flavor-destroying. so, one way to be unique was to have certain gold cards. by giving everyone gold core set for free, everyone has so many gold cards now nobody knows if you got a card gold yourself or is it one of the core cards bc not many ppl care to memorize the rotating core. being a gold card person now has like no value, it was a huge mistake. Also by doubling the handouts our collection managers are destroyed with un disenchantable double copies (gold and non gold) of all thes new-core cards.

For example, i never owned jaraxxus bc its not really my fav class warlock after zoo became obscenely overplayed in wild all the time so playing that class is the furthest thing from fun. I see two giant jaraxxuses (i?) where they cannot be DE’d and i want neither of them. like they just attacked our eyes in the collection manager and made it a huge milk spill on the floor and left it (and pitched it as like a clorox commercial) or something.

  1. Achievements. great idea, horribly done. nobody knows what they’re “shooting for” you just play the game and randomly get random achievs out the way, its totally unfun this way.

  2. Quest system going off xp batches instead of wins. xp batches says “play x amount but you don’t know exactly how much” and when you are short gold winning 3 can be a lot faster than say “earning 2-3k exp” to get that next free gold. its a much slower system not necessarily less gold but its pooled by hitting a level up instead of 3 wins.

  3. “Wow” is still in the game and “i’m sorry” is still left out.

  4. Minisets, great on paper, like 2 days of content out of them at most. minisets are too small for anything hidden to happen in them on the deckbuilding side. there’s so few cards you can quickly slot in the new cards and check the synergies there’s not enough space for creativity in them so they are like totally not working. HS works when buffs/nerfs happen and when bigger batches of cards come out on the same day, mini sets are 1/2 the size they need to be.

  5. Duels, solo content, and Mercenaries are still in hearthstone and like pushed on us when barely anyone likes or plays these modes or will.

  6. Last but not least prerelease streamer parties. these things do 0 good for us the players, and totally hook up blizzard and streamers combined. streamers get income/views, blizzard gets advertising, we get…exposed cards on day 1. heavily understood and exposed synergies and if you choose not to look up new cards the majority of your opponents will or could so the info is still out there for your opponent even if you do the right thing and not look up all the cards live in action prior to release.

There’s 10 reasons why this game is soooo short lived after each expansion.

Fine a bonus.
Look at arena’s rewards.
random non gold rares? We can’t even choose what set we want our packs out of it HAS to be the current set which nobody wants for the most part bc we after some time have all the whites blues from that set and unpacking for newest set purples and legendaries isn’t always what were after.

Fine another bonus
they took away “win with x class” and put it on “play x games” which means you just tank a match or 3 to get the xp done and its not fun at all to do that and you don’t feel rewarded bc you did nothing to earn that gold? like reward comes from taking a risk and they took the risk out of this game that’s why its no fun.

ok fine a final bonus.
card art? hero art?
Yea i know we all have seen this bizarre tank in the quality of especially gold cards art in the last year or two and especially a lot of these non battelgrounds skins. A lot of the constructed skins are poorly done. also, having 25 skins per class or whatever its at now makes the game feel strange, NOT cozy and fun like it used to, bc, well, idk waht class that is or what the heck im looking at for an opponent’s portrait all i can tell is by the HP (sans the rogue legendary) what class im facing. The reward track skins look AWFUL every one of them. like the old pre 2019 system worked well, just leave each class with like 3-4-5 skin options all paid all well done or sorta at least. not this skins galore some have emotes some dont most look rushed and like idk middle school student quality.

And last but not least that gold wing on legendary minions is awful its so big it takes away the entire art of the card. can’t they just shrink that thing down so its an accent and not bigger than the actual cards art?

I mean it can keep growing but here’s another great one.
How many rewards track cards say “undisenchantable”? Answer - all of them.
Yea i know, we achieve xp to get cards but blizz wont let us get a buck or two back from those cards, what cheapskates. like, really? We play your game often to get those ‘free’ cards and we can’t DE them?

The CM still shows non gold and gold cards and a double rare can still take the place of an epic. nobody, ever, ever, ever, want’s double rare over epic. why is double rare pooled in with ‘epic’ on their pack openings like the game is about getting epics and legendaries for like 94 percent of the players.

World Championships.
we used to have it at blizzcon, and, with popular streamers.
it turned into "when’s the world championship? What’s it even called? They pitch so many times these grandmaster ‘finals’ that they all sound like a world championship when they’re not.

we want it live, at blizzcon, same time every year for planning, plus holidays so we are all home to have free time to watch it, with streamers we know for the most part.

also blizz you know like decided to show each contestant’s decklists prior to the tournament starting so no players are not sure of their opponent decks ever. they can ban based on actual lists not guesses. they play each card based off a 30 card deck they know their opponent is playing bc blizz decided to show them to prevent cheating which then ruins the element of surprise which is the enitre point of watching a match. They took their competitive scene and more than stabbed it in the foot. what in the world was wrong with the original competitive system back when kripp was in it? Like, opponents finding out their opponents decklist prematch? How often did that happen and why is this solution worth the cost?

but you know blizz here’s what they think is wise:
NEW MODE
Hey Streamers…get ready for a prerelease access to stream prior to launch day! We dont care if it ruins the fun out of launch day for everyone who isnt a paid streamer!
New Mode
BG skins BG skins, 30 dollar gold bundles, BG skins, 30 dollar gold card pack bundles…underdeveloped constructed skins or poor voice acting constructed skins…
The managers at blizzard sure made some poor choices with hearthstone in the last 3 years. They meant well for sure, i just dont see how they could mess it up worse the only good change they did was no dupes on epics. i think that is legitimately the only positive change. this game used to be so fun and cozy and now its just gone it lost its soul.

they dont even make new music anymore if i recall or boards? maybe they do boards but what happened to new songs to the game its been years.

So, Microsoft bought the company because it has no value?

I find that the game gets more challenging with every expansion. I love this game.

Perhaps your argument would be more convincing if you were more literate.

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  1. You are just wrong. This was the best thing they ever did for Hearthstone. Before that it was win or nothing. By the 2nd expansion New or More Casual Players were stuck. They could no longer win with just the Base Cards as all the matches were Meta Decks and thus no gold to build a deck to compete as the Basic Cards are mostly trash not to be confused with the Classic Cards. Switching to a time base system that rewards more points for winning was absolutely the right call for the game and it should have happened much sooner.
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duelingbook is also free, no card crafting either, you just use any card you want, heck, if the card doesnt exist they have a mode for that too

Yup. Yu-Gi-Oh killed Hearthstone for good.

Just like MTGA did a few years ago.

Also Gwent.

Oh, and Artifact.

I think it might be possible that more than one CCG may be allowed to exist and thrive at a time, but then again I’m just weird like that.

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Gosh this must be the biggest wall of text I’ve ever seen in this forum… Not reading all of that lol

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This is your first Thorodan post?

Been doing this for years. Sometimes there’s a post that’s short, but I am scared of how long they can be, so I don’t reply to Thorodan if I can help it.

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Yeah I suppose so bruh

The man’s eloquent.

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A clown game, maked by clowns for clowns!

says the clown nocroing a 2 year old thread…

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