Hi all,
I have been playing from D5 and up to D3 (3 stars) by play pure paladin
But i just dont get how it can be that suddenly i am being matched against Legend players? - Is this a bug or a script in the game that makes its harder to climb?
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Look at it in a mathematical way.
If you have 60% win rate, it means out of 10 games, you’re winning 6 and losing 4, giving you 2 stars gain for 10 games. To get those 15 stars from D5 to legend, you would need to play 75 games? And 60% winrate is quite good
If you have 55% winrate, you’re gaining 1 star per 11 games. Getting to legend would take 165 games.
I let you do the math with lower winrate. Getting to legend is not just skill, it’s also a grind. Keep at it.
Will do Thank you! ty!
You can be matched against legend players, that is by design
To be honest, i dont really find this “Design” good - it proply makes people play more, but at some point it also makes those who are bouncing back & fourth D5-D1 will eventually just quit the game
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This design has nothing to do with people bouncing back and forth or playing more. The legend players you are facing aren’t necessarily better than you.
It’s MMR based. If you were not winning and losing against more or less the same level of players, you wouldn’t be facing each other. You both are the closest matches in skill level.
You’re not facing top legend players in the D1-D5 bracket. You are probably facing people in low legend, meaning the only thing they have you don’t is number of games played.
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Or slightly better luck, probably combination of both.
Happens me the same about ranking up. Reached D5 in 3 days… that is my personal record now (9 bonus stars) and made my way 3 times do D3 and then fall back to D5… but I know I have made mistake when started to lose. My theory is that, the game lets you go up only until not making mistake. If you lose a game which was able to win… the AI decides behind the game… then it starts to drop you back until your last sured rank. I could see that many times because I am thinking on my mistakes not just blaming the game like most of the players and asking for nerfs. I am sure there is a very clever AI behind the game and it can recognize if you was able to win or not. You can’t make any mistakes above D5… on lower ranks a few mistakes allowed I think. Bronze, Silver, Gold, but thats it… I hink above Platinum you need better than avarage skills to climb higher thats why many players stuck at Platinum. (Like many of my friends who plays full meta decks, not like me.) But that is just my experience, never played OP decks and never hit Legendary, only D1 a few times. I have a life… and my problem is that, when I make my tactic perfect, a new expansion come and ruins it all).
Don´t you see how crazy you sound? Like there is some nefarious AI which can recognise your playing patterns and punish you for bad plays for… exactly what reason? What would be the purpose of such AI?
Look, I agree with you that higher in rank the tougher the competition is. But that is natural thing in everything you do, don´t you think? And when you reach the level where your skill is on par with others then your progress slowes down and you will need to make some extra effort to progress further. And this is the same in school, in job, in sports and in gaming.
What you describe could have much simpler explanation. And that is human behavior. Simply put, when you make mistake or when your opponet win by luck or whatever other reason you consider unfair (and be honest, most players consider any loss as unfair, lol) you get more or less tilted. More tilt → more mistakes → more losses → more tilt. Once you get caught in this circle you are on lossing streak. There is no AI making you lose, there is no algorithm matching you with “counters”. It´s only you…
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Indeed, i am in the same boat, and i somehow feel like its not worth my time for a card back?
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Look at it this way:
You are close to legend. The skill differences between you at D3 and a low legend player is pretty negligible.
If you are at D3 3 star, you have an overall winning record, so given enough time, you’ll get to legend if you just play enough games.
That could be a lot of games, and more than you typically play hearthstone in a month, but the main difference between you and a legend player right now is time, not skill.
…you never reached legend before? Obviously you find it hard, its a plateau you never got over.
For the rest of us its just a new month.
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to be fair, it’s a one time random legendary, an extra free pack in monthly rewards, AND a card back. then every month it just a free pack…yea??
your assessment of the overall value is spot on. not worth the effort or hassle.
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It’s because the matching is so random
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How do you know they are Legend Players?
You get the card back for reaching Legend just once. You’re assuming that such a person reaches Legend every month.
Edit: “It’s supposed to be hard; it’s the hard that makes it great.”
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if they accept your friend request you could find out. when i tried more, i got to legend a few times and i can attest you gat matched up against all ranks usually diamond/legend, but any rank is possible if you queue at the same time as someone with the same mmr in a lower rank.
the value of the struggle is always underappreciated.
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Legend players are matched by MMR.
If they lose enough they can be match with anyone regardless of rank.
Because their MMR will get lower.
So you’re playing against a player who did in fact reach legend but probably is on a lose streak.
I wish there were a built in counter to keep track
Bottom Legend players are probably playing worse decks than the people in Diamond 3-1 anyway.
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The struggle feels artificial to me. That’s why I quit grinding Legend.