HS Rewards Track Discussion

[Reaver-6716]

@Aegaeon-1787

For Daily quests, it looks like the 1000xp quests are roughly equivalent to the old 60g quests. If you assume then, that you can average around 1000xp per day from those quests, that would give you around 120,000xp per expansion (assuming roughly 120 days for an expansion cycle).

For Weekly quests, the Out of Cards article on those sounded like you would receive 6000xp worth of those per week (2x the 1750xp ones and 1x the 2500xp ones). So, over the roughly 16 weeks in an expansion, that is another 96,000xp.

If those assumptions are correct, you’d get around 216,000xp just from quests over the course of an expansion. That’s enough to get you to level 54 in the system.

@Mand-1586

Using the table from OOC, you need 71,300 XP to go from level 54 to 70.

At 400/hour, that’s 178 hours, over the course of an expansion.

That’s an hour a half a day to break even with 60 gold quests under the prior system.

@Track70: 4200+600+2400 = 7200g

I believe @1.5hr/day of gameplay (pre-patch) will result with > 7200g.

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Assuming for an average semi-committed F2P
Pre-patch: target 9000g between expansion. (average: 1hr/day - reasonable?)
Post-patch: to target 9000g between expansion
Track 1-50: 4200g
Track 51-54: 600g
Track 55-83: 4200g

How much additional hours required to achieve the 9000g target?

[Zerfinity-2352]

Do you also get XP for time in Battlegrounds, or is it only in “regular” dueling modes?

[OGASMASHA-1160]

@Reaver-6716

How much additional hours required to achieve the 9000g target?

The quests get you to level 54, and then you need to average 1 hr per day for every 10 levels or 1500 gold. So 9000 - 4800 equals 4200. 4200 gold divided by 1500 = 2.8 hours per day on average. This is at the 400 xp per hour assumption and no tavern pass.

[Aegaeon-1787]

There is supposed to be xp for all modes, but at slightly different rates.

What they said for Battlegrounds is that you’ll get around 300xp per hour, compared to 400xp per hour in Standard or Wild ranked.

[I5om-1817]

Does Duels get any xp per hour?

[Guldin-1734]

I wish I could say I was shocked that it turned out this way. I said before and lll say it again, if they force me to pay for this game I’m out and I’ll make sure to stay out by DEing my cards before I leave. I’ve always made 8k plus gold by just doing my dailies. I’ll be damned if I’m going back to grinding for an hour and a half a day to maybe make the same amount.

[I5om-1817]

Plus, it’s going to feel really bad to grind those higher levels and get an older pack or tavern pass…which I don’t care for or need. That’s basically grinding x amount of days/quests for 40 dust for an old pack.

[Vimn-1948]

Sad to see Hearthstone take such a step back after adding a cool feature like achievements. One of the least friendly f2p games just got worse

[Selwynn-1560]

I have played more today than I normally by a great deal. I finished all my weekly and daily quests, and I am sitting just shy of level 14.

I am pleased with the front end of this, but I am not sure the grind past 50 will be nearly as profitable as the previous system. I will have to crunch more numbers when I have more time to get a better sense.

Also, duels kind of sucks, imo. I just don’t understand why you have to choose any cards to start. Just set it up where everyone has stock first 15 and choices from there matter.

[Selwynn-1560]

@Aegaeon-1787

Out of Cards just posted a breakdown of all the experience gains needed to go from level 1 to level 50.

I would not 100% trust those numbers.

The first version I looked at didn’t have level 14 in the list and the xp requirement for level 14 on that listing doesn’t match my in game goal.

That said, tyvm for sharing this resource and I am sure they will get it updated and sorted quickly.

[Zerfinity-2352]

So far I’m really unimpressed by the system. It had a great start sure, with multiple dailies at once and the low XP required for the first couple of levels. But it quickly grows into quite a lot of XP necessary and having multiple dailies is not the norm, and the amount of XP you get for time is extremely, extremely low. Getting less than 50 XP per game when leveling up requires thousands of XP is just… yikes!

[Madmax-12395]

@Selwynn-1560

The first version I looked at didn’t have level 14 in the list and the xp requirement for level 14 on that listing doesn’t match my in game goal.

For some reason, the row for level 14 was out of order. Typo, I’m guessing.

[VILLAIN-21780]

I’m still trying to figure out how many games a day I’d actually need to play to get 50 gold per day with this new incoherent system.

[Bob-110461]

No one seems to count in the fact that you’re going to be receiving random legendaries, epics, and packs alongside that 4800 gold.

[OGASMASHA-1160]

Ppl are upset because they flat out said the gold you will earn will be the same and other bonuses would be on top of the gold. No one wants to have their gold force spent for them on old content

[I5om-1817]

Those old packs are worthless

[Reaver-6716]

I think it is not people no accounting for them but more of focusing on the gold aspect as the fundamental basis of resource management.

The legs, packs, etc are great add-ons. But, atm it seems that they comes at the expense of the gold and time that pre-patch can achieve.

In a reply to another post, the flexibility of gold allowing proper resource management > ‘more rewards’ but with constrains.

[Madmax-12395]

There’s going to be a extra 35 Madness cards released mid-expansion. These packs can help with that.

[Selwynn-1560]

@Bob-110461

No one seems to count in the fact that you’re going to be receiving random legendaries, epics, and packs alongside that 4800 gold.

So while that is so generous, it’s honestly better considered as “random dust” for most f2p players because what typically matters is being able to get as much of the set as possible as early as possible with gold.

That’s why the amount of gold is so key to this equation.

[Wardrum-1200]

@Madmax-12395

There’s going to be a extra 35 Madness cards released mid-expansion. These packs can help with that.

Yes, but the reward track includes multiple instances of “prior expansion” packs.

I have no need for that at all. I’ll happily save up current-expansion packs for a mini-release and consider them each as 100 gold, but Scholomance (and next April, Darkmoon) packs are not something I’d be spending any gold on.