HS replay is a scam and here is why you shouldn't use it

What really should happen is that Blizzard makes that data publically available. Why don’t they do that? It shouldn’t be that hard. But now of course it would put that company out of business. It’s almost like it was planned all along. More problems means more demand for solutions means more profit to make means better for the “economy”. :smiling_imp: (And this is why we continue to see unnecessary problems all around us. As long as we stick to this outdated trade-based ideology we’re doomed.)

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I want you to think long and hard about this sentence then reply only once you’ve realized how stupid this is

Because no game company in the history of ever has done that as it’s purely the domain of fan sites. It’s like asking why nintendo or gamefreak don’t have the kind of detailed move and stat breakdowns on pokemon that serebii has.

They also wouldn’t do it for free in the unlikely event that they did as several people have to be paid to do that and keep it up to date.

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Talk about naive…

They offer a large portion for free. But anyways, they’re not selling the raw data. They’re selling the statistical aggregation of data across a very very large sample size sent to them by users. And if you think that compute power for that kind of modeling, in conjunction with keeping the site up and running to receive (and store) all of the inbound data that they then parse, is inconsiderable… then you have no idea how the internet or technology actually functions.

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Biggest headline on the news, just NOW, is a lawsuit vs google, while also depicting its data mining. For Years they, facebook, and the rest sell your browser history data to third parties so they can send you ads etc. It’s not even a secret.
And judge someone else before you judge me, I don’t even care if you agree with me on a fact you aren’t aware of, or over an opinion. I don’t need anyone’s approval, never asked for it either.
Now let’s go back to HS, where the only facts are randomness galore d:

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Every time you flush your toilet, you pay to get what you flushed down back in one form or another. Stop going to the bathroom people, its a SCAM!!!

You can sue anyone or any entity for anything. Please, link me to this one because a company like Google will have to deal with lawsuits all of the time. A lawsuit being made does not automatically give it any credibility, I hope you realize.

What do you mean to imply here, anyway, in regard to HSreplay?

AFAIK, you can indeed sue anyone or any entity for anything; whether it stands up to a judge is always a question, but anyone can kick off the process.

Big companies also have ways to counter such frivolous lawsuits, which (again, AFAIK) boil down to “You wasted the court’s time and our time with your moronic suit. Our time is valuable and we want you to pay us a LOT to make up for what you wasted. Here’s a platoon of lawyers which will explain it to you in detail”

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are people really comparing google and facebook to hsreplay? there is a big difference in simple w/l and deck data and your entire personal data about everything you have ever done online.

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Well I think it is silly that in order to get a leg up on the meta you have to pay $5, otherwise you cannot receive information for your respective rank bracket and in regard to VS offering it up for free, their wild reports are so few and far between. I already think deck trackers are cheating and refuse to use them so it is good to know that finally someone else has issues with these, though I still use the free data, it is mostly always ambiguous, rarely helpful, is this deck with 70% winrate even good or was it just because someone bad started playing it in bronze.

Some of the posts in this thread are just amazing. Thanks for the laugh.

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Then they could at least give access to all that data somehow. Otherwise the fans are only trying to “reverse engineer” the actual real data which would be entirely unnecessary if they would share it. That’s the problem. (Or should I say potential for economic growth?:face_with_hand_over_mouth:)

Fair enough. I personally think they could make much more money by selling cosmetics for example to compensate so they can offer this as a free service. Or if it has to be then they could sell access to that data like HS Replay does now I guess. But yeah… at that point it makes not much of a difference so why bother.

I mainly said it that way because I also would rather see Hearthstone as a subspriction model where you have access to everything including any stats they have. (Or in the perfect world even just donations and everyone has access to everything so it’s truly F2P. But that might be too much of a pipe dream.)

It’d be completely hollow and meaningless to most people. They don’t turn the raw data into deck archetypes. They have the participants in the matches, the list of cards in decks, what was played etc but not parsed into anything meaningful to the general public.

The fan sites are the ones that parse the data and turn it into archetypes so they should still be getting paid for ongoing work. It’d be bad for the company to do it because aside from it being a lot of extra work it would be taken as an official guide/instruction on how to play the game and would stifle creativity and deckbuilding a lot more than fan sites do. If it’s published by the developer it comes off a lot more authoritative and official

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That’s up for the user to decide. You also don’t need to go to fan sites. If there would be a section for such data people also wouldn’t need to check it out. But yeah, as we know they want to keep everything super simple and they don’t even bother with an official rule book. But I think that could be handled better. Just put somewhere a button to take you to “complex Hearthstone” or so. Well, that’s my opinion at least.

Really worse than if done by fan sites? Well, I guess that shows you how much disconnected the players base thinks the developers are from them. Maybe it’s kind of ture. But the real problem here seems to be that disconnection and not the idea of sharing that data by itself.