Part of being a “pro” is being literally a pro. The best players in the game often use it as their only income unless they are born rich and don’t work to begin with.
Many adults even around this forum could be multiple levels above their current gameplay; they choose to not do it; it’s not their job to do it.
I mean, statistically it would. If you play enough, with a 50% win rate, eventually you’ll land you in the top 10.
In fact, eventually it would happen with a 10% win rate. Maybe not before the heat death of the universe, but eventually.
That being said, I was mainly just being pedantic with Scrotie (which is habit of mine).
It’s obviously a combination of both, and as you say, there may be people with exceptional skill fo whom luck is only a minor factor in the climb. I’ve never really encountered them, but I’ve played enough games where I’ve realized in retrospect I could have won if I’d played differently to think it is likely that skill plays a role.
Those that play Demon Hunter should forever suffer purgatory.
Its by far the least popular class ever that only sees play when they are beyond Paladin levels of broken.
Theres also the odd rumor around that people that play Demon Hunter also like pineapple pizza…
Unholy beasts.
Honestly I think Time is the most important factor.
Obviously there are exceptions - for instance, if you intentionally make a deck filled with nothing but 10-costs, or you concede during the opening mulligan every single game, or if you literally only play one single game per month, or if you never play standard, etc. Then yes, for these obvious exceptions to the rule, you’ll never reach Standard Legend.
For all other “reasonable” scenarios though, Time plays the biggest factor. You could have the “worst deck” (within reason, see above) and the worst luck (again, presuming normal circumstances) and the worst possible skill (you’re just throwing random cards out as soon as you can play them, just going pure face damage whenever possible), and you’d STILL make Legend eventually, just from raw probability alone. Given enough trials per unit time, just about anything is “possible.”
We don’t have unlimited time, though. We have, at most, 31 calendar days. Often less.
Given that limitation, now the other factors play into it more. Which in turn leads to my conclusion that Time is the most important factor; everything else only matters because of the restrictions placed on time.
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WHOA WHOA WHOA
1.druid exists
- my otk deck is so fun, youll forget you are playing dh
if you want I can post the deck code, its really fun, like actually
People sometimes ask me what is my most proud achivement on this game, and it could be that i have a 20 rank wins in a row on standard with Mage or almost 5k wins with Mage.
But NO the thing im most proud in this game is this:
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There are players who dont really care if they get to legend too. I will play to legend if i like to play a deck that is good, but for instance last month i had a much better time playing greedy burgle decks in casual than trying to get there.
Plus most of the time i get there i dont want to grind anymore because its boring and i dont want to play meme decks because my placement is usually around top 1000 somewhere and i like my shiny number too much to tank xD
I am the self-proclaimed “King of casual” lol
I never attempted the legend grind. Had I known they’d kill my favorite deck “because reasons”, I would have tried to get legend with it.
And just for what it’s worth, I only ever got to Rank 5 in the old original, Star system. It was brutal, and all the old schoolers know that, I’ll bet.
So I think this system is way easier, to say the least.
Nah I doubt there’s time for that. MATHEMATICALLY you’re right on the realm of theory. But in the real world those top 10 people have near 80% win rate until they go to top 100 or so and it still takes a lot of time; a player on 50% will probably never do it in the real world; well unless they play an abandoned format.
No.
Those players are matched by their MMR and they play each other all month long all the time. They never play anyone else but top 100 unless no one else is logged in and playing.
No, they’re not.
Once you enter legend there are no streaks or bonus stars. If you only win as much as you lose you will not gain ranking at all. You have to consistently beat better players to climb in legend.
You have a point about the first; but you’re probably partly wrong; MMR has a natural decay after a month ends and the top 10 players probably play with a few worse players until they return to high-ish ranks (easy to check if that’s true by seeing their opponents).
You misunderstand entirely what that other person was saying. They were talking about lengths of time up to the heat death of the universe; I noticed later they were also purely theoretical; given almost unlimited time: a single win streak could put you Legend 1.
It does not. They specifically do not reset it.
The only thing they do is re-norm it to a bell curve, meaning the top players are still the top players.
… except someone that is a 50% player will never get that streak. Ever. Under any circumstance due to how MMR works.
You can say someone like that can get to legend and I will agree, but not to top 10.
Anyone who says this misunderstands how different the game is at that level. They are not doing what we are doing.
You’re preaching to the choir. There’s no time and the probability is approximately 0; that’s what I was saying to that other person; I later noticed they were also talking purely theoretically (basically it can happen: but it’s more probable space aliens will land on earth tonight).
PS even if MMR did not decay (I doubt it) there’s another huge effect: if you are only 10 people being the best in the server: if you’re the only one of them online you will play with worse players.
Sure, but not that much worse.
It’s not like they’re going to get one of us, lol.
The morale of this story is that if I completely ignore you, as long as someone else questions you, eventually you’ll post exactly what I was going to say to counter yourself
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Below Diamond 5 time is definitely a bigger factor than skill. In Legend, skill is definitely a bigger factor than time. For Diamond 4-1, idk I guess they’re kind of balanced.
Time only helps if you win. Some players the more they play the more they lose. Sometimes boredom helps to cause it.
Wow. This thread has turned into a bunch of youngsters trying to prove who is the smartest in the room.
A recurring theme in the Forums…
You didn’t make the most mature post I’ve ever seen, which makes it a huge oxymoron, because you did a blanket multi-personal attack calling people immature without any argument to support it.