I’ve been up and down in d1-d3 and I keep trying to play my super fun quest line DH with kazakusen but it constantly matches me up vs face Hunter, libram pally or some other aggro deck. This deck is the complete opposite and it’s basically an auto concede by me. Why is the game making me play these decks? Is that the only decks in this rank? I keep switching to my other decks to keep rank and win matchups.
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I have never seen quest hunter till I have created quest hunter deck.
Out of 6 games I have faced 5 quest hunters…
Crap like that happens.
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Its an impartial system, but it isn’t random, and though I believe it is elo based, there is more going on than just your run of the mill elo system.
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There’s matchmaking as described by Team 5. Team 5 is controlled by Blizzard. What is Blizzard’s level of trust?
I typically take their word for it over the conspiracy theorists. Realistically and trying to be impartial, I don’t think we can say we know close to anything about matchmaking.
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Aggro decks work quite well and people like to win (as do you :-), they make leveling faster, too - provided the win rate is positive. Diamond rank 4 and up are heavily contested ( 'cause Legend), a (homebrew?) combo of Quest DH with Kasakusan ( = longer games) might just not be good enough there (depending on piloting skill). The deathrattle verison of DH, which seems to perform better than the quest version, still loses to hard aggro. Bummer.
As for the matchmaking, you can of course believe the people with tin foil hats and their personal experience, or consider two things:
- cui bono? An elaborate system as envisioned by the red pill team would be expensive with a capital E, but to what avail? Don’t tell me that angry, losing HS players are good customers who buy more packs.
- HSReplay alone monitors almost 1.5 mil game per day, a very big data pool. Any irregularity in matchmaking would VERY likely surface there.
Your choice.
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I dont think the system is expensive at all.
I also don’t think there is any way it does not consider deck compostion.
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30% of the meta is playing Kaz decks and the other 70% is playing Aggro and other decks that counter it.
Why is it so surprising for you to see those aggro matchups multiple times?
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Because most people are clueless about how the game, meta and matchmaking really works.
They call a deck OP for example without checking actual numbers to back their claim.
‘’Kazakusan priest is OP’’ I have seen in another thread, except that it’s not even a 50% deck.
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So, they come here and ask how matchmaking works, and get made fun of and bullied by elitist jerks…
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I do not think it is someone being a jerk for a sole reason to be a jerk.
These questions appear over and over again and very rarely these are honest questions. Its more like a rant or some accusation the developers are intentionally rigging the game to target you specifically.
And when you see that topic being posted again for X -th time, knowing where it would lead, you might get annoyed, tired… whatever.
People just do not understand how random actually works.
picapica described it perfectly:
So its kinda normal to see something “rare”. Like when I was unable to queue to a class with 30% playrate and instead I was repeatedly queued against class with 1.4% appearance on ladder.
Instead you see people talking about the game being rigged. They are being forced by a game to face certain unfavourable matchups, when they switch decks, they get another unfavourable matchups etc.etc.
Like if the devs have nothing else to do than to code how to screw player A, C, E and G.
(Knowing their “skills” it would actually mean these players would get a code to face favourable matches instead…)
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Huh, who was bullying or making fun of him ?
We both know people always claim the matchmaking is rigged in these type of threads, which is FALSE until proven otherwise.
Not sure why you’re trying to be a white knight.
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Just trying to be a good human. If you wanna call that abnormal or extra, then, OK…
Sure, there are tons of other threads that are more accusatory and trollish.
I didn’t read this OP that way. And I was looking extra hard for the sarcasm in the OP (which still could be cleverly disguised)
If you are tired of these kinds of posts BEE, then maybe take a break?
Or better yet, don’t come into a thread you are “sick of” and go OMG FACEPALM THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY GAHHHHHHH.
As far as elitists basically telling the OP to Ess Tee Eff You…
I went back to quote a few and really, in this thread, they were just politely dismissive.
So, I, like you, were referencing past threads and typical behavior and assigning it to the wrong place. My bad.
TLDR: There are a lot of people who accuse Blizz of rigged matchmaking and there are tons of elitist jerks who are “white knights” defending Blizz.
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I didn’t think anything was rigged or out of the ordinary for match making. I just thought it’s weird I’m playing a slow deck with basically no minions and the game has me in an algorithm where I play mostly decks that have lots of minions and aggro. Just figured I’d be playing similar style decks. No need to fight guys!
You presume the game reacted to your choice of deck specifically and then based on your unique choice it moved you to a specific different bracket to choose decks specifically tailored to give you a hard time?
And all of that is coded by lads and lasses that are struggling to not break the game while releasing new patches, by lads and lasses who managed to code a dust refunds in such laugable and borderline amateurish way they have rather decided to not trying to fix it to avoid further embarassment?
Well…that’s a pretty interesting way of thinking I have to admit.
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I believe the algorithm is “let’s look at Player1134’s deck and find the toughest matchup for it”
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For sure, you can change ONE card in your deck and have to face different decks, no? If I took kazakusen out of my priest deck it would put me versus different style of decks I think…
I try not to be paranoid but after being banned as many times as me I sometimes wonder! 
You fail to understand that I have nothing personal with the OP or anybody else, all I’m saying is that a lot of folks in the forums and pretty much everywhere else are not well informed and don’t understand the fundamentals of what makes a meta.
In that case, as Orion said (who is well informed btw), since Kazakusan druid pretty much beats everything that is slow, the meta shifted to hyper aggro to counter that deck specifically (it literally consists of 20% of the meta according to the VS podcast I’ve listened this monday), which is why OP faces a ton of aggro decks.
Of course, those who aren’t as invested in the game will be left wondering why their decks are ‘‘countered’’ by almost everything and think the matchmaking is rigged against them.
I never understood why stating facts is considered elitism… like if I am to tell a silver player that he’s not good at the game (which is objectively true) I will be called a bully and an elitist. Why is it so hard to admit that as humans we can’t be great at everything we do ? If I am BAD at something, regardless of what it is, video game, work, etc, I will be the FIRST one to admit it and work towards improving.
This is why I really like Killuminati’s posts, he himself admits and he isn’t the greatest player and has a lot to improve if he wants to be a ‘‘great’’ player. There’s nothing wrong with that, I respect him a LOT more than those guys who think they know it all and won’t admit they aren’t good players. He’s actually listening to others and self aware of his limitations, which is clearly a very hard thing to do for most people.
I was talking to a friend of mine who knows a guy and he said that all the people who come on to the forums to say that hearthstone is rigged are paid by Wizards of the Coast and Leaping Lizard software to lie about hearthstone to draw people away from it. They are all shills for the MTG online makers trying to sabotage the official forums.
So this army of anti-hs shills are paid actors attacking the game.
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Justin Trudeau hired me actually