I only ever play BGs, so i have 30k gold and the only thing to spend it on was the perks. Now that is real money only, so how can i spend my gold from BGs if thats the only mode i enjoy playing?
it would be nice if i could gift my brother some gold as he plays constructed so is always struggling to get that next 150g for an arena, while im sitting on this huge pile of useless currency i can never use.
Literally any crap i can spend gold on to use in BGs like emotes, skins, card backs or whatnot. Anything like that in the shop ive already purchased so are out of the question. Everything left is real money only (and im not wasting dollars on cosmetics).
Itās sad that Blizzard lets us earn gold in BGs but cant spend it in BGs, I guess its their way of trying to force us to play /waste gold on that crappy constructed game mode which is boring as fk (and not my style of game). Doesnt work on me, ill just horde it until i can spend it where i earn it, or until i can gift it to someone who will actually use it (which will never happen in this greedy company).
GJ Blizzard. /s
I donāt know, but I appreciate that this is an important, First World Problem, & I will give it the attention it deserves.
I asked about it for you on Twitter. Iām awaiting response. If I find out anything more, Iāll let you know.
Thereās really no need to be so snarky. Itās an honest question.
Simpleā¦ you canāt spend it on anything and I donāt think itāll change.
Best thing you can do is quit as a way to protest.
Well, you cannot. Enjoy ! quitting I mean, like me.
I didnāt read it as an āhonest questionā, I read it as rhetorical, entitled whining.
My bad, I guess. I read it differently. In World of Warcraft, players can use gold to purchase tokens, which can be exchanged for $15 Blizzard balance. Do you think a similar method might be useful in Hearthstone, too?
I donāt know; I have no experience of any other game.
Its a legit question though.
For months they let us grind gold. They said ālook come play bg and you can earn gold as reward for doing soā. This gold could be used on a variety of things,amongst which BG itself. The gold had value for the players.
He we can play this game and we get a reward for it and that reward has value to us.
And then blizzard from one day to another,and without grace period,makes all those rewards that we have earned over months of playing worthless.
Just imagine you constructed players. You safed up quests and grinded for 4 months to buy 100 packs from the new expansion. And then just before new expansion comes out blizzard says. No this gold can not be used to buy packs from new expansion.
Like wth the forum would be to small,people would be enraged if this was the case. Yet this is exactly what did happen with BG players. And halve the people are even defending this lol and are fine with it.
You cant let players grind a game and pretending you are rewarding them for doing so by giving them gold which has a certain use. And then when the moment is there that players want to use the gold to buy something say: no you can not use gold to buy this anymore.
Well you can obviously as this is what blizzard just did but really companys shouldnt do this.
Its so unheard of,there hasnt been a warning either to the players. They where happy to keep us grinding while already knowing that the rewards would be useless to a large portion of those players.
Never going to happen because everyone would just make 10 accounts and funnel gold to their real account by doing dailies.
There are people who always whine on blizzard forums and people who always simp for their every fart, nothing new
- Can you show where they actually āinvited you to play battlegrounds to earn gold for battlegroundsā? I always assumed the menial amount of gold earned in this mode was just a fringe benefit to the regular game and its store. Meant to be another game to play to mix things up but not meant to be the one and only thing that a person played.
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- My best friend is one of those that refuses to play anything but bg. Anytime I have to challenge him for a daily quest or he wants to try duels and asks me for what Ive had luck with using certain heroes, he is coming up short with cards that can do what Ive suggested. He had like 4 cards that gave armor when he tried to make a Rattlegore bomb warrior for duels. It didnt end well for him obviously. My point is that I dont think they intended BGs to be the only thing you played and used the in game currency for, and to that end, if you refuse to use what they give for free to buy things for yourself for free, I think that is on you. If you never spend real money on the game ever and are complaining about the free money they gave you to enjoy their services and become a drain on their bottom line, then all I can say is tough ****. Either youāll get over it like everyone else does or youāll figure out a way to use it eventually. That gold is like a gift card to best buy for $10. Best buy doesnt sell anything that cheap aside from their candy and sodas by the registers so really its just a way to bring the cost down on something you were already gonna buy, say an Alexa for like $50ā¦ now itās like its only $40. But if you were gonna be an amish person that got a best buy card, then yeah that card is pointless. But then I ask, why did you go thru the trouble of earning a best buy gift card Mr Amish?
Donāt ask for a way to spend gold in BG, it would become even more p2w
I have a very legit point,it is actually the only legit point in the whole discussion thus far.
Can you show where they actually āinvited you to play battlegrounds to earn gold for battlegroundsā? I always assumed the menial amount of gold earned in this mode was just a fringe benefit to the regular game and its store
Are we really going to pretend this isnt the case?
They added bg specific quests,so people could earn the gold in BG mode. They had the tavern pass which could be bought with that gold and which gave you 4 heroes to chose from. Everything they did let us believe that the gold we earned in bg could be used for at least unlocking 4 heroes to chose from.
but not meant to be the one and only thing that a person played.
How is this even an argument? We make this game but a person is not meant to play only this game. Is a person playing constructed meant to spend 1500 gold on arena runs every month? And if they dont spend that 1500 gold on arena runs they will be taxed an extra 1500 gold when buying packs for constructed. And this is justified because a person isnt meant to only play constructed.
This whole line of reasoning,which could easily follow the statement āplayers are not meant to only play this gameā is just rediculous to begin with.
Blizzard knows very well there is a large amount of bg only players. If this wasnt their intention then they should have adressed this months ago instead of waiting with it.
But they didnt and they did give out the gold.
Now i can understand an adjustment in gold,because you could earn 10k gold in one season and you only need 2k gold for the pass (this blizzard could also easily forsee,and even if they didnt forsee this they could see it happening for months already). But they dont even adjust , for this presumed unintended not spending of gold because there is nothing to spend on.
But to make gold completely useless in BG ,after first handing out a lot of gold with the assumption that this could at the minimum be spend on bg hero unlocks,that i dont find fair.
I can understand why they did this,but its not fair and they should have let the players know way earlier. Not let players earn gold,which players had every reason to think would be useable for gameplay related perks,and then in the end simply declaring all those earned rewards void.
Make the pass 5k gold,that seems like a fair amount.
This whole issue does show another interesting point.
Blizzard is fine with giving out 100$ worth of packs every 4 months to people who grinded all the constructed quests. But blizzard is not fine with giving out 20$ worth of bg perks.
They dont want to give these perks at their fair value of 2k gold and they dont even want to give them at an inflated value of 5k gold.
For blizzard a player earning 100$ worth of free packs is better then a player earning 20$ worth of battlegrounds perks.
Why is this? It is because packs for constructed leads to the buying of more packs. Its not meant as a f2p option,it is meant as an intro to the game and an incentive to spend money.
There is no such option in bg,to spend more money and unlock more gameplay related (as in:non cosmetic) options. The only thing that they can offer for sale is chosing from 4 heroes over chosing from 2 heroes.
Anyway,i dont care all that much but i honestly do think that making all this earned gold useless is the thing that blizzard did wrong and which isnt fair towards the players. I can see why they had to do that but its still the result of their own actions. A result they could and probably had forseen months ago yet refused to adress or update the players.
Would you be happier if every BG run would cost 150 gold and ending 1st gives you 300, 2nd gives 250, 3rd gives 200 and 4th gives 150?
I wouldnāt but in this way you would use gold.
āGold is uselessā just means there are less things you need to buy; the moment gold becomes essential, you will never have enough gold to buy everything you want (see standard)
To put it shortly, this is a bait and switch, is what neverlucky is saying. Players were clearly guided in the direction to earn gold via BGs. Soon, however, gold will have far less value, if any, which for the BGās duration, that was the reward. That reward is being made obsolete in regard to this mode. Players rightfully feel like they wasted their time and were suckered.
It is another scummy move by the team. This entire game will die if this new runestone system is implemented incorrectly, and thereās a high probability that will happen.
Blizzard is now out to manipulate every one of their games into being predatory monetization scams under the illusion that itās fair and somehow rational. Most of the time anymore they donāt even hide the greed. Itās in your face. I encourage anyone that doubts this to go and play Diablo Immortal.
Iām on the verge of quitting all Blizzard games out of principle.
Forgive my rant. Iāve just about had enough. Games I loved being destroyed.
I think you meant to say Games you ādidnt pay for or intoā trying to remain a viable return on its investment.
Your version is just a little over dramatic.
As to BG specific Quests. Ill concede they did make those specific quests. However they also made Mercenaries specific quests too. As a way to get people to play that mode, enticing them to potentially spend money in that game mode. Just like they already did with regular ranked matches quests. Just like they do with Battlegrounds. Just like every game mode. Every mode has and Id argue, needs, a way to be monetizeable, as this is a business first and foremost. A business that makes games that so far many on here are fine with complaining about some things costing money. You dont have to purchase them you know. You dont have to buy perks, you dont have to buy packs, you dont have to even play the game. You dont have to have a technological device even. There are many choices along the way in this that you can decide on. Spending money is one of them and your obsession over the gold you;ve horded is a you problem. Ive got 365 gold. So your horded up 10 or 30k of gold I cant recall, is just you bragging and whining like some rich kid complaining they only got 4k for the weekend and their parents promised them 6k.
You arent owed anything, if anything Id argue you owe them for playing as much as you have and havent spent a dime for all that entertainment.
Im reminded of the people that take their lunch breaks and go watch the street performers every day but never contribute to their tip ājar/caseā whatever they got. Its one thing to walk up on a street performer, stop for a moment and take it in and keep walking and not give them anything, but to make you daily routine based on it and never put into that tip ājarā is just wrong.
And I know BLizz aint no street performer, but its just what Im reminded of behavior wise.
I have spend money with blizzard,well over 300$ worth i think (which is more then i spend on all other games combined) but my last purchase was years ago now.
And f2p players are contributing to the game,they are not leaching of the game on the contrary. In some way the game is leaching from the f2p players.
F2p provides the players and the community that any game needs to have in the first place to be able to thrive. Its a symbiotic relation not a parasitic.
I also do not complain about bg becoming a paid game if you read my post carefully. I complain about a specific element which blizzard did handle poorly in my opinion. And i still stand by this opinion.
Anyway,since you did respond and i already said i made my last post on this subject. This will truly be my last post about it.
As a paying player, I am concerned that this new BG currency will ruin the BG experience. F2P players will struggle to compete and minimize the player pool resulting in longer queues and no ambition to achieve any in game goals. Sorry Blizz, this was a mistake. As much I enjoy enjoy Blizz games, I think I am done feeding their greed.
Ya got a lil something brown on the end of your nose there buddy. I love the mentality of āwho cares about the free player that made the game a sellable product to others.ā Game like these need free players to grow their base and make the games worth investing in for others. That youād compare a free p2w game to a retail store is ridiculous. All you are doing is making yourself look like a jerk to all the free players that make up a majority of the gameās population.