After facing 3 of these disgusting overtuned decks in a row i cant understand how they can let Boomboss be as it is. 1 TNT alone blows up 3 cards, why does it shuffle 3 by default, thats 9 cards that are just gone… its also disgustingly easy to surive as Warrior with all the boardclear and armor than it doesnt matter if you waste a turn to just play Brann. You win the game anyway after for free. Like why can a highlander deck have access to 4 Brawls? Warrior is so far from being acceptable its ruining the game.
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Deck isn’t overtuned sorting by gold(because I don’t pay for their service) HSReplay shows a 49.5% winrate and HSGuru shows
that Diamond to legend is 50% winrate,
at legend 49.3% winrate
dropping in top 10k to 48.8
and a smudge further in top 1k to 48.7
other decks seem more problematic this isn’t even a beats ALL late game decks anymore so why wouldn’t they let it exist
Mage was a tier two deck and it was Nerf but warrior just because not see high numbers does not mean it doesn’t need the same treatment. Blizzard ether gets head out of their rear end or there will be no HS soon. The popularity of HS is dropping now so how long before it nothing bots mostly.
For me the problem is just Bran. For the rest of the game is just busted. Why is it even a warrior thing? Rest of the game and battlecrys why for warrior? They already had odyn also.
Shudderwock is just two mana less and only for the next battlecry. Rest of the game should cost 9 or even 10 mana.
If they play Bran and you can’t have it for yourself somehow you might as well just concede right there.
Or bring back some tech against cards being shuffled in your deck.
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Meanwhile orb mage screw you from hand before you even get to try get brann on board. And if you do youre dead anyway necause 5 or 6 is orbs funny. And interactive.
its also a triple battlecry has a mini and is a 6/6, the speed in which you can abuse its effect is much faster and has no requirement(singleton decks less consistent then non-singleton decks)
At least mage does not do anything to your deck or hand like warrior does all time now. Do you see a mage blowing your whole hand and deck to hell with no recover what so all. That or having double battle-cry for the whole stupid game. Now let add all armor and over 10 manna to list.
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Something you consider unfun
Blizzard has slowed this down and reduced its power to where they find it “Reasonable” maybe it should only be 2 TNT but I think on its own 3 isn’t excessive its when brann makes it feel like its “infinite” because 1 usually leads to another and before you know it all your cards are gone
As the default gain armor class they barely are the best(mage with sleet skater can get some gross numbers too) and by putting new heights in PIP any class that got the Druid tourist was gonna be part of the over 10 max mana whining pair, warrior just won that lottery
Highlander Reno XL decks are for trashbag players who count on people conceding as soon as they see them because who really wants to spend that much time playing one hand
If you can’t beat it in five turns or less, what are you even doing here? You’re wasting time in a war of attrition that you have about a 90% chance of losing
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so because they consider something to be fun that you don’t consider to be fun they are “trashbag players”
I will, and usually I win 90% not lose, they are so confident in their quantity of card that they lose by their quality of card
Sure. What you describe happens turn 12. Whats better, value or infinite damage? Which happens sooner? Orb mage walks over reno warrior and dance on the corpse.
If your idea of fun is playing an aggravating deck that wins simply by boring people to death so they quit and you get your free win, then yeah I said what I said
It is exactly because people concede that they play.
Those XL Highlander decks are junk that need to highroll every draw and usually they don’t exactly because they have 40 cards with only one copy each.
If people wanna they out then they have to stop crying and putting those players on the rank they deserve as the weaklings they are.
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Not necessarily though. While they are worse decks “per average card” because their best cards are only 1X, “per total deck” it’s unclear if they are worse because they use highlander cards that are extremely valuable (albeit less so after reno’s 2 mana nerf and marin’s nerf that could turn reno to 0).
This is the catch.
Even the valuable cards are get less often than in a 30 cards deck.
The answers for today’s meta is simple but not many people have enough courage.
Play 30 card decks and Just accept your loss If they highroll enough.
40 cards decks did let those people too confortable on ignoring incremental advantage that they really can’t.
And it requires courage because it is Very unconfortable to play opponents that not abide the same rules you do in deckbuilding.
Even when you know yours is better.
I don’t know why you make a blanket statement about it. It depends on the deck and it’s unclear if highlander decks are worse. The Druid had a good case recently that made highlander a (potential) improvement; it was ramping mana a lot while reno was nerfed to 10 mana but since it was ramping mana the nerf was very light to the druid; also the warrior is doing well again right now on the highlander version.
It’s not about winrate entirely, it’s about fun too. It just feels very bad for one player to get their cards bombed away like this, because you can’t do anything against it.
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hard disagree, right now for example a way to minimize his effect is to play renathal, a 40 card deck has lower odds of drawing TNT then a 30 card deck. On top of that I watched Kibler climb with espionage rogue and I have “minimalized” the TNT threat before by playing Sky Mother Aviana. Marin and Incindius can increase your deck size as well, if you draw a TNT and it hits an eruption in your deck you aren’t too worried.
Sometimes doing something against it starts in the deck building stage, the problem people have is adapting because they are too stubborn to include tech cards when they can cry on the forums for a month and then a balance patch will “fix” the problem they refused to try and fix
Im trying out putting into ETC, Tony, the 7mana Pirate copy opponent deck thingy. I guess it could work against Warrior.
my biggest problem with using tony to outplay warriors is once they have played boomboss they usually have already played Brann so you are playing a suboptimal version of them(highlander warrior) and most likely lose because they will out value you by the end of the game, not to mention if you aren’t highlander even if you hit Brann/reno their good effect won’t go off