Hearthstone really is rigged. Here's how to beat it

No, they do not keep players’ winrates at somewhat around 50%.

I remember a Blizzard employee saying that’s their goal.

Gonna add to this again. It is clear there is internal deck ‘counter’ algorithms in play, we’ve seen them show they can do similar with Zephyr the Great regarding the board at that moment. Inevitably after a strong chain of wins, suddenly you are faced with deck after deck that annihilates your own, just for you to then be chosen to play counter and get some wins. Back and forth.

Pretty sure it goes without saying MOST GAMES WANT YOU TO HAVE EVEN MATCHUPS. Jesus it is astonishing how stupid this place is.

Anyone who doesn’t believe this game is rigged. 1. Doesn’t play the game. 2. Is a shill. 3. Is just a troll. Played since beta, almost EVERY time I’m on a winning streak. I will get impossible matches. No matter what I do I will lose them.

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Everyone of your ilk has supposedly played since beta. You just suck dude. Stop being pathetic and making up imaginary demons so you can feel better at losing at a card game.

Hazama is a perfect example. Thanks for proving me right. People like him sit here all day and defend Blizzard. Pathetic.

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Yeah 94 posts and played since beta. What a joke. You suck at a card game dude. Being pissy and whining about it makes you look like an idiot.

That’s because I don’t sit here all day and troll like you. Calling people idiots you disagree with. Just shows how much of a loser you really are. Also I got legend about 15 times before, when I really cared. I bet you’re a bronze loser, who just sits here and posts instead of plays. Like you said 94 posts. Also these forums were different before. You would know that though, if you weren’t a loser.

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You’re probably a grown man whining about losing at a card game. Pathetic as it gets.

How much of the actual text did you read?

There are a litany of iterations of the process contained in the patent application, many of which are highly beneficial to players and player experience and don’t involve microtransactions or paid content.

Also, until you have proof that any specific version of that particular patent is deployed in this game, you are speculating.

There is definitely an algorithm used to match players, but the specific variables are not public knowledge.

It’s pretty hard to call something rigged without evidence. Claims of fraud require specific allegations and evidence.

You’re sitting here shilling for Blizzard. Calling people names. But I’m pathetic right? Dbag.

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The problem with this argument is that some people’s opinions are so polarized to begin with that you can’t reason either way. I don’t think you can prove it either way. They definitely have motivation to do it and the ability to do it and something to gain from doing it, but have they? That is more pressing. The thing about a random distribution is you can’t see things that make it looked rigged, but they could also be due to the fact it is indeed random. You wouldn’t even know which metric to begin testing this theory.

I was a bit alarmed when I was winning a lot of my games, then I started seeing patches in my opening hand for about 10 games in a row after mulliganing 1 or 2 cards, but then that could be completely random. When they introduce cards like yogg, this provides the perfect appearance of a chance based card, that has potential to be manipulated to determine an outcome.

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I’ve played since beta, just hopped on here this month

Completely incorrect.

Rolling two dice is a random occurrence, yet the chance of rolling a 7 is six times higher than the chance of rolling a 12. That’s not rigged, but it’s also not uniform.

If you swapped one of them with a weighted die, you’d be able to detect the difference from the expected distribution.

And, again, if this magical rigging system is so subtle that it never changes the outcomes…it doesn’t work.

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But if you have several different quality people piloting different decks at different skill levels and you throw in a few different variables, then how do you track which variable is the deciding variable? On paper probability works out, but in real life you never really know if you have a cause effect relationship, or simply something else is making it look to be cause effect.

Like this is a kind of random analogy, imagine you are dropping a leaf and you have an X on the ground, the leaf is going to hit that X 100 times out of 100 because it should drop straight down right, but then it doesn’t hit it as often as you expect and then you figure well wind is playing a factor and then well does the aerodynamics of it also play a factor, how much of the factor is wind and how much is the aerodynamics, how do you extrapolate. Then you already know and understand these properties that are influencing the result. But when the source is an unknown source and may be multiples sources, then you really don’t know.

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If rigging is so imperceptible as to be completely undetectable and leaves people who pay massive chunks of money stuck at platinum or diamond, complaining that they cannot advance while F2P players are hitting legend… is it really working?

Is the rigging so slight that it doesn’t even work for everyone?

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Well sometimes even when you try to rig something in a way that is so minor that nobody notices, then sometimes it just doesn’t work. Like lets say you pay off a man city defender, then he makes 3 purposeful mistakes and the game still ends in a 4-3, Man City win. Like if they were trying to rig it that way it would still faulter under some conditions, I tend to beat my counter matches more so than probability says I should under the data mining sites.

I’m not saying they do it, I always have to point out that I think it’s plausible that they could and they have a motivation.

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The data mining sites display averages. You falling on one side of that average doesn’t mean anything.

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Unless you have a knowledge of statistics, which is what was used to create the computer, networking equipment, and display that allows me to read your intellectual nihilism.