Good thing TWIST ends in a few days

Sure but it’s kinda worse than that.

What the old sets pale in Power the new sets pale in appeal.

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I can agree with you on that

However, I will say this upcoming expansion, Titans, sounds pretty cool, but I’m honestly considering not jumping into it this time because it looks like more power creep.

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Honestly they don’t.

We talk about onipotent being and the only thing you can imagine is a card you can tap?

It’s not that complicated.

In older days they used to do cards that feel overpowered but usually aren’t.

Nowadays they do cards that not feel overpowered but are.

Know why i so against balancing around people feelings?

Ordinary people don’t like to be challenge.

A healthy metagame change isn’t only about power. But about how you get that power.

If you don’t have to challenge what you know in the process then you lose a good part of what makes a game fun.

If some cards not give you a really bad sensation due to you not understanding why they’re allowed then the design is wrong.

If you say so. But I haven’t spent any money on this game in a long long time just by dusting old cards and doing my dailies. I have the disposable income. It’s just not worth the money anymore

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I think the barebones connection between “feelings” and “video games” essentially is whether or not you’re having fun. When the wins and losses both have the same feelsbad feeling, I for one am not enjoying the game. So, I would certainly hope the devs would take that into consideration when it comes to the balancing portion of the game.

And for the record, I’m not talking about archetypes. I think control, tempo, aggro and combo decks should all be viable in any meta.

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They don’t. They just add crap to the game that gives the play a dopamine hit. It doesn’t feel great when a hunter summons 2 King Krush from deck, then revives 2 King Krush the following turn.
It doesn’t feel great when a warlock discards thaddius on turn 5, then turn 6 has him on board and is able to cheat 60 mana. Then if you clear it all, he just summons it again with reborn the following turn.
It doesn’t feel great for a druid to be pulling thaddius turn 5 either with that 9 mana’s deathrattle. It doesn’t feel great to have a 100% immune mish-mash mosher in the field that prevents you from having a board.

All this crap is just to give the person playing it a dopamine hit.

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I agree with you about standard, but that’s where my agreement ends.

In a mode like twist, it’s specifically to push different opportunities to play different things and not everything needs to be viable all the time.

I don’t know why this concept is hard to get, but seems like too many of you are missing the point: THIS MODE CHANGES FREQUENTLY AND NOT EVERYONE NEEDS TO LIKE EVERY ITERATION.

This is exactly the issue.

It’s not the a developer function to think if you’re having fun.

It’s function is to make it engaging.

When you get it the other way you destroy the main pillars to make a good game.

The experience of playing/learning the game is fun. Not the game itself.

Atleast i not know many people who look at game and have fun just by that without even understand it’s rules.

So being put in a situation where you need to think about what you’re dealing with is fun.
If design can’t engage people(at any cost) then the game is bad by default.

While I don’t think it’s invalid for you to experience this on a personal level, it’s important to understand that this is not a universal that applies to all players.

The way I see it, there are essentially three psychographics of gamers:

  1. anticipatory gamers, who enjoy preparing for the game and play for the purpose of confirming theory;
  2. in-the-moment gamers, who enjoy “piloting,” that is, playing the game itself (proving you wrong)
  3. storytelling gamers, who enjoy remembering the (often highly unlikely) events of previous games (usually in the form of Trolden videos) and play in a way to create fertile ground for such events to occur.

(My view on psychographics doesn’t map exactly onto Mark Rosewater’s famous trio, but 1 maps somewhat onto Johnny, 2 onto Spike, and 3 onto Timmy.)

So while you as a gamer might be coming at things from the anticipatory perspective, where the excitement that you get from imagining the performance of a card provides more fun value to you than the in-game performance itself, it’s an error to presume that all gamers share your approach towards the game. And it’s a game developer’s job to, yes, consider that kind of approach to gaming, but to consider other approaches as well.

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Oh man there is so much wrong with this format.

Mage has one dragon in the pool so they have guaranteed payoff of the two best possible rolls off drakefire.

This is just one of the problems. Basically if they have twist they need to disable any card that discovers, simple as that. The pools are too warped in order to be even closely balanced.

Other than that quests seem pretty broken all around.

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I love the idea of Twist and the possibilities it offers.

I am astounded that they’ve decided to launch the beta on this selection. It is actively anti-fun.

Exactly this. It is absolutely not to our benefit.

On paper, Twist is a good mode. The problem is that the lack of neutral cards break certain decks as A LOT of tech cards that were used to counter the stuff quests can pull off are neutrals.
Not to mention the fact that some archetypes die without neutral cards to synergize them (lifesteal DH cards/secret decks/murloc decks/etc.)

They could just remove UiS from the set and add an older set to the rules in exchange. Problem solved. Maybe in Ungor or Ulduar with other quests.

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what’s your star bonus for the new season? i only finished diamond 10ish last season, and i got 11 stars bonus, same as high legend.
Is there like so few people playing the format?

This happens when your MMR is higher than your rank. The level you get only assures you of minimum stars, not maximum.

nah nah nah we need to UIS to stay to play ques tdruid to climb

back then that deck was terrible to climb the ladder but in twist it isnt !!