It’s time for rogue to have a Board Clear.
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One (1) damage to all enemy minions is hardly not strong enough!
Rogue has fan of knives.
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HoFing Vanish and nerfing Prep should at least warrant Blade Flurry back to 2 Mana.
While at that, most of the Rogue spells should get a revisit thanks to Blizz’s Overkill style of nerf.
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As ling as face damage stays off Flurry, that would be a reasonable’ compromise. It never should have been hit that h a rd imo.
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Rogue needs something like Elven Minstrel.
The prep nerf had a side effect of nerfing Rogue’s ability to draw cards.
They should change Fan of Knives to 2 mana and the Draw 4 Cards spell to 6 mana.
Most Rogue decks didn’t play Vanish.
I basically never play Rogue, but would like to see Rogue have just a bit better draw so the Rogues I play against can have some variety instead of being forced to either be Quest Rogue or Tempo Rogue.
I would like to see Rogues that can use something other than the hodgepodge random cards they got from another class and actual have the option of not playing that archetype.
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you know why blizzard enver give rogue board clean
because every heroes have weakness and strength
and rogue weakness are board clean
Pro tip:
don’t trust any of that.
I can estimate with a 95% certainty that said HoF’ed “Out of place” basics were removed to prevent Zephrys from looping itself/dealing the highest amount of face damage for the least amount of mana.
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pro TIP
its blizzard game and it can do what it want
it was aslo blizzard idea to make weakness and strength heroes
anything what in note post it going happen to hearthstone game
stop crying about to give rogue board clean for it enver happen
thank you
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case for Mind Blast, but that being said couldn’t they have just removed things like Vanish from the pool to prevent Zeph loops, just as they did with Shadowstep and Brewmaster?
It isn’t outside the realm of possibility for Rogue to have a way to deal with wide boards, even if it has to rely on Neutral cards or some interaction between Class and Neutral cards. Just because a class has something listed as a “weakness” doesn’t mean an effect is 100% off the table forever.
it have come out two expensive rise of shadow and saviors of uldum and guss what rogue enver got board clean it means weakness heroes happen true
Just because Rogue didn’t get a board clear in RoS or SoU doesn’t mean the offer is off the table forever. You’d might as well say that Druid never got Choose One synergy in Witchwood and Boomsday so it’d mean that Druid would never get any again. Moreover, Shaman was able to overcome one of its weaknesses (card generation) by combining its Quest (which was released this past expansion, right after class identities were announced) with Neutral battlecry cards. Based on this, I wouldn’t be surprised if Rogue received a way to deal with wide boards in the future.
its was litarally after come out note post heroes strengths and weakness
why not use Tunnel Blaster its aslo good for board clean for rogue
… And? I don’t see your point.
It really isn’t, though. 7 mana " maybe deal 3 damage to everything and also after your opponent has had the chance to prepare" is terrible outside of meme Paladin decks.
card generation means discover more card or get more card
but quest only do its battlecry
Ethereal Lackey its neutral card are not shaman card
thank you
boomsday come out 7 augusti 2018
and note post with heroes weakness and strengths come out 24 June 2019
do you get it
why not use Tunnel Blaster its aslo good for board clean for rogue
really isn’t, though. 7 mana " maybe deal 3 damage to everything and also after your opponent has had the chance to prepare" is terrible outside of meme Paladin decks.
Neutral cards allow classes to extend their strengths to reach a specific goal with their deck or to make up for some of their weaknesses. For example, a Paladin can add Neutral Murlocs to help them round out their deck, or a Hunter may use a Neutral card that gives them a small amount of healing so they can stay in the fight longer. These cards are generally lower in power level so a class can never completely overcome their weaknesses.
Exactly. One of Shaman’s weaknesses is supposed to be the generation of cards, and while Shaman’s Quest technically desn’t directly create additional cards, it synergizes with Neutral cards like Vulpera Scoundrel, Dirty Rat, Barista Lynchen, etc to generate more cards than it should. This is a loophole that, while confusing, lets the class circumvent its weaknesses. Because there is now a precedent of a card being printed after the establishment of Class weaknesses that also allows a class to circumvent those weaknesses, I believe it isn’t too far out there to hope that Rogue might get something similar in the future.
While you make a fair point, that wasn’t my argument. The post I initially quoted said that Rogue would never get a board wipe because it didn’t receive one in RoS or SoU. My point was that if past sets exactly predicted what we could expect classes to get in the future, then we should have been able to use sets from the Year of the Raven to predict that Druid would never get Choose one synergies, regardless of what the class’s strengths and weaknesses are.
… and? this doesn’t make Tunnel Blaster any better. Rogue can still receive better options without completely overstepping its boundaries, just like Shaman received better options without technically removing its weakness of “card generation”. Rogue needs an early/mid-game board wipe that validates the existence of slower Rogue decks, and Tunnel Blaster does a poor job fitting that bill without printing some synergy card (e.g. 3-4 mana spell “summon a minion from your deck and destroy it”, etc), which is exactly my point.
noop not going happen in future
of you want to charge note post then you should get job blizzard you can find in american
I’m not trying to change it, just saying there’s a precedent for a class overcoming its weaknesses through synergy between Class cards and Neutral cards, and it isn’t outside the realm of possibility that the same could happen to Rogue.
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