Give control players their time to shine

Just my thoughs on the current meta :slight_smile:

So i have read how many aggro players are complaining and i have to remind you the way you are feeling now is the way control players and those who play slower decks have felt for years if i am correct.

I mean control has only been strong for what the past few months or half a year - once again its been for a longer player correct me i could be wrong.
So now you at least know how they feel they have had to endure not being able to play their faveroute cards for much longer then you this goes for wild and standard.

I used an aggresive deck which i am now bored of becuase its gets bland really fast to just load stats onto the board and hit face and although in some cases you have to think for the most part not alot.

I think winning a game that goes on for longer is actualy harder because when both players have stabalized and are not aggro value becomes important and as we all know some players just love to overcommit resources - play more cards then you should in one turn.
again some aggresive midrange decks can stil be good like beast hunter,

People act like all aggresive decks are now suddenly bad but forget midrange decks like beast hunter can play aggresive and has some explosive starts still and it has lategame.

I honestly prefer a midrange meta becuase when you have a midrange meta all decks are viable unless i am wrong ofc.

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So i have read how many aggro players are complaining and i have to remind you the way you are feeling now is the way control players and those who play slower decks have felt for years if i am correct.

Dude it’s the other way round. Value only stopped mattering in Stormwind, and the people that only like to play that kind of deck didn’t stop screeching until every otk was dead. Then they went after Quest Hunter.

Yes we always had aggressive decks, but they were a counterpoint to whatever greed was popular at the time. Control ceased to be relevant when removal rendered board development worthless, ergo there was nothing to control. Hence games got won hella quick.

And yes, aggressive decks can still shine. Yes the increased game length can put some people off. They’re free to stop playing. Whatever.

I honestly prefer a midrange meta becuase when you have a midrange meta all decks are viable unless i am wrong ofc.

Actually the worst, because then the game just devolves into a) who fails at the fundamentals of hearthstone ie when to trade and b) if neither fails, who draws the best curve?

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Just deleted my old comment rofl by accident.

I think i said curvestone as different then it is now and that i felt you were abit biased to aggro and that i actualy played a fairly aggresive deck boat rogue and that i felt knolls should hav gone to 6 mana and kept 4 attack.
I hope your not offended i was just saying how i felt and like i feel aggro needs to exist but for now i am fine having control players have their time.

I have no issues with you but you are kind of biased about aggro.

I understand how it can appear that way, but honestly I wouldn’t white knight for them so much if there wasn’t this false narrative about value being dead/it always being an aggro meta, and the misconception that aggro players are braindead. I don’t think those are unfair points to make.

I play mostly aggro. No I do not have all day to spend on the game, and usually like to reach legend. Yes I can play other things to an equal degree of competence. No this is no longer my main game, I prefer CK3, which is EXTREMELY long winded, can take more than 50 hours for one playthrough.

I used to respect you, even if you’re opinions are kind of cringe. Since you failed to explain why its ok to nerf Quest Hunter yet all Mage nerfs are a hate crime, not to mention your the way you’ve misrepresented stuff that Iksar has said without taking the time to stop to look into the facts, I don’t think you have any credibility left. Not to mention you can’t help but insult me every time we interact. So forgive me for not giving a damn what you think.

This can’t just be an echo chamber of people slapping each other on the back and being ‘yeah yeah, devs are racist against Mage, and all aggro players are scum’ somebody has to speak out against it, even if they’re on their own.

Is that what we’re calling Lady Prestor Druid? Value?

This is the highest RNG deck since Lunacy Mage.

I guess it has a high skill ceiling since you have to consider the odds of getting one or another random dragon. Do I play 3 Alex copies on the same turn? Or is it going to be Onyxia board refills?

This is now the most popular deck in Hearthstone.

Also i want to add i prefer control decks that are proactive those are my faveroute control decks.
that is why i don’t like control paladin it has some good proactive plays but no enough for me and it feels like i have less options to play the game differently but its just me.
I really like the new control warrior that played the tidal revenant thats how i want to play control proactive removing a minion put threat into play and instead of using another removal spell now i can value trade and develop and go on the offensive.

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I really like the new control warrior that played the tidal revenant thats how i want to play control proactive remp.ove put threat into play and instead of using anothe removal spell now i can value trade and develo

Warrior is my most played class, and the number of those that were Pirate Warrior can be counted on one hand. But I’m just aggro scum to some people so hey.

I can see your upset i’ll try and calm things down also i want to add you and orion should try and work things out trust me its not good to walk around angry i did for a long time not worth it.
Aggro needs to exist but you guys have a good run all i am saying is give the control players this time to shine besides this is one card from the expansion hang in there.

I can see your upset i’ll try and calm things down

Nah, I’m chill.

Aggro needs to exist but you guys have a good run

‘We’ had three weeks of Demon Hunter which I didn’t want to play because Drek’thar is lame. Since then…probably DMF was the last actual aggro meta?

Not slating you though, just offering an alternate view. I appreciate you just want a friendly discussion.

He made his mind up a long time ago when I had the temerity to disagree with him so idc.

I just think if you look at the metas over the last 2 years i think aggro has been the predominant architype deck in most metas but thats ok we can have different views im fine with thats just how i have experienced it.
Value has been not good for a long time even more so in wild.

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I get a lot of aggro decks tend to pop up, but they are mostly underplayed. Shadow Priest was technically a thing for 8 months but after Illucia was nerfed nobody touched it, but that deck was legit nuts. And, infuriatingly for some, it was known to be high skill cap.

A lot of the time it also is a necessity when combo decks are everywhere a la Stormwind or people overplay certain ‘bad’ decks cough Quest Mage cough Ramp Druid. And under those conditions I’d rather just smash their face than watch their dumb win condition happen to me while I try and build for a late game win con that never happens.

Is it good though? I’ve only had it played against me once and they totally whiffed.

I hope not, it sounds horrible. Lunacy was the second worst thing about last year

Lategame wincondition - i need to bookmark this page never though id hear you say those words what kind of lategame wincondition did you have sorry just curious i was under the assumption your not a fan of lategame hearthstone.
Although if like warrior i can see how some of their decks have some kind lategame threats possibly.

I play any kind of deck control, combo even aggro but i’ll be honest i play aggro probably the least.
I like rng but i can definatly see why some dont maybe.

So this is being played even in diamond to legend then ?

I liked every late game Warrior deck since Dr Boom was no longer a thing.

Tickatus was also great, but that’s possibly because trolling Priests is funny.

I see well at least you dont just spam aggro and play other decks.

Exactly, I get bored enough as it is without just limiting myself to one thing.

Yes.

It’s a deck that is at minimal tier 3 and has around the same variance as lunacy mage.

Sorry to tell that the only thing 40 health
and 40 health is creating is RNG being extra prevalent.

So no. I not upset at a Control meta because it not exists.
You can’t Control your way out of randoness.

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