So poisen rogue and garrot have merged its definatly back.
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It never left.
T w e n t y c h a r s
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This weapon Rogue deck is pretty obnoxious. Basically just stuff as much reach into the deck with cloak of shadows. It’s very gimmicky, the issue is that it works more often than it should cause they draw so much they almost always can cloak long enough to avoid actually playing the game and then kill you.
It’s all over the place at top legend and I’m tired of it lol
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It’s a fairly ghey deck. Let’s just cloak our hero a bunch so nobody can interact with anything or play the game. Seems legit.
I don’t care how strong it is…it’s just one of those decks like shudderloser shaman that I’d never play on principle.
Yeah, it never left it just morphed. Into something stronger.
I was under the wrong impression that teching vipers would hurt the deck. It does not. If the weapon doesn’t kill you, the garrote will. And there’s no real reliable way to tech against garrote.
I destroyed the weapon twice but their hero power is a weapon, so they can buff that to draw and then stealth and delay then kill you with a garrote damage combo that hits hard because of the discounts the deck gets.
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Yea that’s pretty much how it goes lol.
I was skeptical when I read the Vs report that said weapon removal wasnt great against this deck because of the sheer amount of burn they run. After more reps and experience I see what they meant.
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Yeah Poison Rogue is really obnoxious, basicly the only counter to it is Ramp Druid since they can gain more armor than the Rogue can output damage.
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Even when I ramp and armor sometimes I get burned down by the Garrotes if they play it well. The key comes down to if they get Knoll. It’s a monstrosity of a deck. They draw the whole deck then spell damage you along with face damage with weapon over 30+. The deck might be okay if they couldn’t cloak or if they had no Knoll to win early game.
I don’t know why they even print cards like cloak of shadows. Ice Block, Time Out and Cloak of Shadows are cards that never lead to healthy gameplay. They only are ever used to facilitate non-interactive gimmicks that aren’t fun to play against. Giving people tools like this only encourages cheese strategies.
It’s really mostly reliant on the weapon for draw and some spot removal. It has enough burn to kill anything from hand without a single swing to the face. This deck and Mozaki mage shouldn’t exist.
The bleeds from garrote should never have benefited from spell damage. Multiple other cast when drawn cards in the game’s history haven’t.
It doesn’t make sense for them to benefit from it either. Spell damage only affects spells you cast. You are not casting the bleeds, they say “casts when drawn”, not “cast when drawn”. If you were casting them, then they would be vulnerable to counterspell, ice trap, oh my Yogg, would proc ogremancer and crossroads watch post, would proc spellburst minions, etc.
The deck has more issues than just this one, but this has always bothered me.
Because they don’t learn from their mistakes. That’s why they went back to printing charge minions, or why they never learn that excessive mana cheating and card draw never end well.
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The spell damage +2 become garrote 12 damage x 2 = 24, and some direct damage and more can do 40-50 in a single turn
I just beat one with my “Doctor Priest” deck.
Helps when your 2 cost Mutanus eats one of their Spell Damage + 2 guys.
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I’ve also gotten really lucky and waited to play Viper until AFTER they buffed the Swinetusk
Honestly, Garrotes should shuffle into your opponent’s deck and not the Rogue’s deck.
That would drastically balance a lot of stuff out.
After all, if you get a Garrote, it’s the OPPONENT that is suffering from the “bleed” in their body, not the Rogue.
Never understood why it goes into the Rogue’s deck. It should work the same way as Hakkar. And yes, the Hakkar bloods benefit from spell damage if the opponent has it.
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Don’t play wild, but wasn’t there a version that used to do exactly that ?
Or was it Corrupted Bloods from Haki?
Edit : Hakkar* damn One Piece autocorrects saved in my phone
Yes, Hakkar is one of my all time favorite cards. I would play it in Warlock and give the enemy bleeds and then treachery a spell damage minion to them.
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That’s freaking evil! I love it
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whats is ooze???
Yeah, I just matched up as freeze/evolve shaman. Rogue got to swing once between the freezes and the vipers. Didn’t matter. Sat with a full board for 2 turns while they discounted everything their hand and played it all turn 9 and, dead.
The mozaki mage of rogue decks, except you can’t even do lethal from hand against it.
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A card that doesn’t stop Poison Rogue when they run 4 weapons.
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“Oh no, you broke my buffed weapon, good thing my deck is now empty and I can just burn you for 30.”
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