Game is pay to win now?

He probably won’t respond. He does that when backed into a corner.

Yes, but by how much ?? 0.1%? I mean… That’s 1 game out of 1000 (I know, law of large numbers, yadah yadah but that’s roughly the figure).

So to be honest, between spending 1600 precious dust on that 0.1%, and spending it on something fun - as, let’s be reminded that this is a game and I am here to be entertained…

Bottom line being, what is YOUR definition of “being competitive” ? I’m doing rank 3 average every month, so, yeah, I don’t feel like the competition is blowing me away, and I have no wish to do the legend run again, what is that 0.1% going to change for me ? Feel less bad because I lost 1 game in a blue moon because of one card, one factor in a sea of factors ?

To be fair, misplaying has probably a far bigger impact than that extra legendary in a deck.

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Last expac i paid and loss a ton of games
This time i didnt pay anything and im winning a ton of games
Having all the cards doesnt equal in winning more games .

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Their answer to that question is pretty consistently, “Top 200 Legend or bust, and if you haven’t reached Legend yet then your opinion is automatically invalidated”.

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Not in this case, because everything you can pay to get is also something you can get without paying.

mhhhh 9k8 if you get 3 wins everyday, that’s a lot for most players

i’d take a screenshot every time if it was a feat of strength but it only is to new players such as yourself

send an email to blizzard and ask them for the previous standings if you want (or why they removed it for this year, i’d like to know the answer too), me, i don’t have anything to prove to you or to the new guy

you can’t, i really don’t get how you can’t understand simple maths

it doesn’t matter, as long as you get an advantage by paying, it is p2w and games like fortnite/apex are not because you can only buy skins

thank you, i don’t have to type it again

maths, dude, maths

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Except you can fulfill the new 60g quests just by playing 3 games. No need to win them all. Presumably at some point in the four months between expansions you’ll win the 60 games needed to earn that extra 200 gold to hit 10k.

win or play, that wasn’t the point since it takes the same amount of time (give or take)
the point is that with your 10k, you get 100+10 packs out of the 250-280 needed=40-45% of one xpac

Keep avoiding showing me the proof I’m asking for. You’re really looking high and mighty right now. You know hearthstone has a practice mode versus the innkeeper, right? Maybe that can help you improve, for at least a chance of surprassing rank 20.

And you got it for free. 40% of an expansion for an investment of half an hour every day for four months seems like a pretty good deal to me. Particularly for a game you can play almost anywhere.

Of course, if your goal is a full collection, then it isn’t enough. But a full collection is a dumb goal anyway, so there is that.

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People have literally done meta-analyses on pack statistics showing that you get about 75% of a set from 100 packs, and many of the remaining cards (junk epics and filler Legendaries) aren’t even useful. Where are you getting your numbers from?

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Why are you guys still arguing about P2W, anything that’s an advantage is technically P2W, I wouldn’t say that if you pay and get a very slight advantage that it would be P2W, because it’s just on the egde of P2W and not P2W, let’s say you buy 50 cards and you get at least 10 cards that are legendary epic and rare vs the F2P player who has none of these cards then yea I would say it’s a pretty big advantage, but getting 1 card that’s better is on the edge, not worth calling it P2W tho technically it is.

Any huge advantage is P2W clearly for the period that both play untill they are even or very close in same deck.

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do you want me to build a time machine to take a screenshot? nope, it’s your problem and yours alone if you’re new and clueless

it is but the original subject was about the game being p2w since a f2p player can’t get the same amount of cards/collection as a p2w player

it’s your opinion and yours alone

Well if you reach legend consecutively, you shouldn’t have a problem reaching it this month, right?

this month? no problem, i’ll take one and i’ll wait for yours too

Agree to disagree. If you use “I’ve never seen proof that you’re a multi-Legend player therefore you’re a newb” as your main point, but fold when subject to the same, it makes you look a lot like a troll who just wants to win an argument.

Ehm. No? It isn’t? It’s pretty widely established that a significant portion of Epics and Legendaries from each set are bad or underpowered and likely to never see play. You can see there’s evidence for this by searching specific card names on sites like HSReplay.

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the standings were there for a whole year therefore it’s not really my problem if 2 people out of 4848645864564564 on this forum have trouble reading

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And it’s not my problem (or the problem of any other forumgoer) if you can’t properly substantiate your claims. Go figure ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Its not a reading issues. Moreso the fact that you can’t back up your claims and are very obviously trying to swipe it under the rug. Like i said, the innkeeper may help you improve to at least average standing.

can someone remind me why i’m even wasting time argiung with two rank 20 players?