This card as well as Tickatus are giving warlock a really bad feel to play against IMO.
I get that Tickatus is designed around breaking up control/combo decks, but when it becomes so pervasive on ladder it basically snuffs out entire archetypes across multiple classes I think things start to stagnate. Historically, new set day usually means a bunch of different decks being tested/played on ladder but the staggering majority of the decks I’ve played have been warlock using Tickatus and/or Rustwix. (reminiscent of DH with ashes of outland)
The synergies with Rustwix also just feel really bad to play against, between Felosophy and Kanrethad and the super greedy decks that include Vectus the late game for these decks just doesn’t seem very realistic as you’re basically playing against a different prime, or multiple primes every turn if they run the quest.
Overall, I really like warlock as a class - Even lock, zoo and old school hand lock were some of my favorite archetypes in the history of the game. I’m not entirely sure if this is a power level issue, or if it’s just a problematic archetype as I’ve heard other players voicing similar concerns. But in my opinion it just doesn’t feel good to play against these decks because it seems to move the needle away from skill based play and more towards just snuffing out decks that can’t deal with these mechanics - but historically I guess that’s just how the meta has taken shape with previous (most) sets they have released. I think without balancing this is the sort of thing that results in a really stale meta because you have one or two super problematic archetypes, and then the rest of the meta just ends up being shaped around dealing with those decks - at that point its like why bother printing an entire set of cards.
In b4 called out for whining, I’m trying to open this up for a constructive debate because I’d like to hear other players’ feedback on these cards/decks and how they feel about their power levels.
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The thing is, the only way to actually lose to Warlock is to run a deck even greedier than theirs so really at the moment it’s balanced. Tick is slow AF and the new legendary is an even slower WC, the card is being run for memes really, infinite value isn’t great if you’re dead by turn 7.
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Face the fact card broken as can be but blizzard will leave it just as everything else. This why Hearthstone not really a recommend ccg anymore on any search engine or app.
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It’s being played so much because it’s a new card. First rodeo?
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Many primes aren’t even played by their own classes and they usually require a “deckbuilding condition”, otherwise they are just stats
In general they aren’t bad card, but they aren’t game breaking when a warlock can shuffle a lot in their deck.
Kenretad into Rustwix in an infinite loop is maybe something they could have avoided, but I think the overall effect is fine (for now)
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A full rustwix build does not want tickatus I think, and so far it feels like with equal draw it beats tickatus.
If warlock cannibalizes itself with these conflicting WC then all control decks will benefit.
Rustwix does not want soulshards with quest and i don’t feel pressured to play broodmothers, I just keep them in hand. That is a lot of greed that can be punished by other decks once people start playing them.
Your solution is basically play aggro which is just pushing the issue aside instead of dealing with it. One card should not single handedly shut down multiple deck archtypes and be considered ok just because one type can beat it.
That logic is why aggro stays so prevalent and the meta never changes from it, because peoples solution to literally every deck that doesn’t kill you by turn 5 is to play a deck that kills you by turn 5
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How is my solution play aggro? I just told you I beat Warlock with a COMBO control deck.
Learn to read.
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5 mana do nothing, it’s just to slow in this fast Meta
How about you play the Nameless One, Polymorph, or Hex and neuter Rustwix?
If you’re playing a combo control deck, your deck is slow. If they DIDN’T manage to burn your combo cards with (i’m assuming) multiple tickatus they either got REALLY unlucky that entire game or you drew perfectly.
I’ve play basically whatever deck type seems fun at the time, aggro or control or highlander combo w/e and unless I draw absolutely insane Tickatus will destroy me if i’m not killing them faster than they can get him off.
My point still stands.
This is still a video game and games are supposed to be fun. Losing your cards with no counterplay is the opposite of fun.
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tickatus is a counter to those boring "sit back and blow up everything the opponent plays " decks
thats tickatus best match up!
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If Tickatus is Jade Idol, then Rustwix is that legendary Jade card that people used to play (Aya Blackpaw). Rustwix isn’t the problem, he just adds fuel to the fire and makes it feel worse. If Tickatus never existed then Rustwix would be fine. But Tickatus is just as bad as Jade Idol ever was and it sucks to play against them to know you have 0 chance.
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why are you guys randomly connecting tickatus and rustwix …there is no synergy to be found between the 2 cards !
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Rustwix is perfectly balanced. He’s slower than any other primes but with a fatter body. He’s also completely random so you can’t plan on drawing into your prime. Yeah, Kargath off the top is awesome. Vashj, not so much. She’s mostly “draw 3 soul fragments” these days. Akama is a real let down outside of certain games.
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This is the most ridiculous comparison I’ve ever read on these forums.
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This feels like the most concise response I’ve read so far. Solid comparison but I will say that tickatus lock doesn’t feel as meta defining as the jade archetype was. Having said that I do agree with everything you’re saying!
It’s a very bad comparison.
Aya is just stats whereas Rustwix can be game winning & infinite value.
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Tickatus is slow is a big lie. It cant be slow when the warlock has half of his deck with removals.
3 mana deal 2 to everything, 3 mana deal 1 per card, 2 mana deal 3, damn ive even seen warlocks running Hellfire just to be more safe and it works. On top of that they have the Soul fragments and that is one of the most broken things ive ever seen in this game. Getting up to 20 or sometimes even more FREE healing just for draw a card is insane. They just dont care about aggro decks coz is so easy to clean board for them. They just wait and win. Thats it. The only exception would be toxic hunter coz they take too much damage when removing the board. Aggro rogues and dh are easy game for a tick warlock. The biggest threat for a lock now are OTK combos, but well, we know what happens with Tickatus boy.
lol at least those take more brain power than the boring “RAWR ME GO FACE ME PLAY FULL HAND AND REFILL HAND AND SMASH MORE FACE IGNORE OTHER PERSON” decks. Don’t even try to make it like there’s actually something wrong with using your brain or actually playing as if there’s a real person rather than an npc to just go face.
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