Either nerf old stuff or buff the new

Same archetypes but even more powerful than ever and barely using any of the new set.

Example: insanity lock rising up again. Surprised it tool this long to be honest for it to come back. Extra crescendoes more than encroachings is fueling this deck. I say remove the fel tag off if crescendo and the safety net of having a full heal but it aint gonna happen.

Example two: dragon druid is back and as powerful as ever with like ine or two new carfs, new heights and the seven mana one. Gotta love doomkin being meta still

Example three: all the handbuff and flood paladins, do they even use new cards?

Example four: rogue uses none of their new cards for the most part and if ya do it is an unoptimized deck. I like their legendarys but they are to expensive to play. Paladin uses the new cards more than rogue in earthen paladin, sea shill and conniving are great for that deck.

Would love buffs over nerfs at this point

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example 5: Every class can have everything. Except mage, of course.
We can’t even get a cheap card to tutor a fire spell.

nevermind that elemental mage was T1 and is still T2… and Small Spell Mage completely dumps on Painlock one of the best decks in the meta…

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Mog: I made this.

Mal: You made this? I made this.

I have made nothing. Shy made all my best decks, lol.

What I meant is stop stealing other people’s threads.

I agree with the Op that old stuff needs to be buffed.
I can name 20 mage cards that are absolutely useless.

Not every thread needs to mention mages.

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Well, if I comment then I have to speak from mage’s viewpoint as it is all I play.
That does not invalidate my input.
Rather it makes you sound like an exclusionist.

Either figure out a way to talk about something that isn’t mages or how bad capitalism is, or just avoid participating in every discussion. Please.

So, because I only play mage, I’m not allowed to comment or express an opinion per you?
How very evolved.
There are also plenty of neutral cards that need to be updated.
Or, am I not allowed to have a thought on those either?

I mean, imagine if there were people trying to discuss a variety of issues, but there was this one guy who had to jump into every discussion with how hard it was to date as a straight man.

Now I’m not trying to say that dating these days is easy for anyone, or that they have any other viewpoint than their own experience. But it’d just get insufferable if every single discussion had to address the trials and tribulations of the single straight male.

Could you maybe try listening to people, maybe formulating some opinions on some things that aren’t Mage? Do you really need to be that guy?

I comment regularly on things that are not mage, but of course, my experience with those classes and their cards would be from the viewpoint of having played against them as mage.
And your analogy makes no sense to me. It reads like the derail you are baselessly accusing me of.

There are a great many neutral cards that never see play because they aren’t good enough, or simply do not have any synergy. I feel like that could be far better.
And btw? Other than the thread I authored, this is the only one I am on, so you exaggerate at best.

Rogue is dead in the water now that zilliax ticking got nerfed, Excavate (the only archetype above 50% pre-patch) lost its’ only anti-aggro tool.

Hunter is completely dead and ranger gilly is a nothing burger of a buff.

Is Rogue weak in Standard, atm?
It’s God-like in wild.

ehh the mage deck that can burn through every card and win on turn 6 seems to be pretty frequent in wild.

(spell mage)

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Yeah. Very much a mage deck. Just not one I play.
I like play/counter play. That deck is glorified solitaire.
But it sure doesn’t need any buffs:)

I feel like other decks might be viable if some older cards were unnerfed to their original stats and text. I’m sure every class has some.

Fine.

Sunscreams are really bad because they giving only 1 attack to Minions makes It not punish Minions saying alive at all.
Buff paladin.

The nerfs they recently did were fair and far from heavy handed IMO. The buffs probably could have been a bit bolder like the DK got. Decks that have existed always have the potential to come back around from even a single card making them relevant again.

The meta evolving and changing so much after the last balance patch is a good thing. New decks come in and supplant the existing ones. That makes it fun and exciting. You also have to realize right now there’s going to be a lot of experimentation on ladder from the top players with the MT this weekend. Those decks they are trying will naturally filter down to lower ranks as players see something new and exciting to play.

Try to remember that those “old” decks might be new decks to players that didn’t play in the meta when they were relevant.

so another question real quick, does rogue abuse neutral minions more or does Druid abuse em more?