Dust refund on card changes is useless

So we are seeing blizzard changing alot of cards recently… and its all fine because you can just get the dust back from those cards and get back your investment… right?
NOT REALLY… lets say they are nerfing “open the waygate” and you get full dust refund for it but you probably had to invest/craft other cards that arent used on other decks that isnt getting nerfed.So you are basically stuck with cards you cant use and if you dust them you get ridiculously low amout of value back. And lets be honest the amount time/money you need to spend to some of this decks can be outrageously high.
Now most will suggest make all cards that are played on those decks refundable.
But i got a better suggestion… Make every single card (1 copy of legendaries and 2 copy of others) refundable for full dust value for two weeks whenever they do any sort of balance change. Not only will this be community friendly decision but also it would make sure Dev team dont release broken cards just so they can change them later. It would make them think twice before releasing absolute busted cards like current expansion and probably improve there QA/testing.

the thing with being too community friendly is that it can become community unfriendly at some point.

for example according to your suggestion a nerf would turn 40 packs into at least 13100 dust. from daily quests and 10g/3 wins I regularly get 8000 gold per expansion as a minimum. this would translate into at the very least 20k dust after a nerf (gotta account for non-refundable triplicates).

and that’s per expansion. after a year, I’d have acquired 60k worth of cards as an absolute minimum. especially if I only wanna play standard, I can then craft anything I want for as long as I want.

while this might sound great, it’s not because no for-profit company is gonna hand out that much more without also increasing the price at least to a level that they make as much money as they did before the change.

and on the other hand it could also limit their willingness to do balance changes at all.

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Well i guess its fine then for blizzard to release busted cards and then literaly few weeks after nerfing it and screwing up players.

“don’t give me free dust”

are you okay

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no, it’s not. there isn’t just black and white.

my point was that the extra dust from this suggestion wouldn’t be free.

LMAO, op can’t do anything but netdeck so cries when he can’t use his brain cells to build something original

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LMAO, lets be honest here you dont really need much brain cells to make a meta hearthstone deck… this coming from a long time mtg/yugioh player.

Or just make it your goal to collect a play set of every card so that you can play whatever decks you want and nerfs don’t matter…

Ah yes… you are exactly the kind of consumer blizzards wants “if you cant make a deck with whatever few packs you got just buy more lulz”

why don’t you make a new meta deck right now then ? those who made the meta decks have to come up with the idea first and do a lot of testing. I’m sure there’s plenty of decks that can be meta that haven’t been discovered yet.

it aint a science project chief… hearthstone cards arent that complicated… you can tell what cards will work on what decks on first glance you dont have to be einstein…
SO why dont i make a new meta deck you say? so who is gonna pay money for the new cards i need to make? Too bad i wasted all my money crafting a busted deck thats getting nerfed because blizzard is dumber then a toddler when it comes to balancing there garbage game.

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so what nerf are you complaining about ? open the way gates ?

SIgh :man_facepalming:… orite lets say im “complaining” about open the waygates even though i just mentioned it as an example.
Lets say i crafted stargazer luna , mana giant , arcane giant and mana cyclone and whatever.Now they are nerfing open the waygate and you get full refund for that which is awesome but you arent getting refund for all this other cards you crafted for this deck and those arent really that good on other decks. So you can see i have already invested all my dust in a deck thats nerfed/weaker/dead whatever but im only getting refund for one card which is again awesome. So basically im still getting screwed.
so do you understand now or do i have to make my explaination even more simpler?

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As a long time yugioh and mtg player you disappoint me.

open the waygates nerfs will likely NOT change anything to the archetype. that’s a joke nerf and misses the core problem. for it to be effective you would need to change it to cast 10 or 12 spells.

now that it’s biggest counter (DH warlock) has been completely obliterated, quest mage should be the best deck still in the upcoming meta.

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The OP was speaking in general, he used “open the waygate” as an example :man_facepalming:

For the love of the god im not complaining about open the waygate… you are really missing my point… im just setting that card/deck as an example… i dont even play the deck nor do i care that card got nerfed or not… and only card that i play on my deck that got nerfed is bad luck albatross which isnt a big deal at all…
But maybe some player got screwed because of this nerf, maybe i will get screwed on future on some other nerf… what i am saying is this “full dust refund” is simply a facade and people are still wasting there precious time/money on something that blizzard is screwing over yet no one seems bothered by it at all.

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so you’re making a huge, angry rant at something that doesn’t even affect you ?

Alright, you got me there, my apologies.

But wait… by your logic shouldn’t blizzard refund every deck that runs Bad Luck Albatross too ?

Yes this balance change doesnt affect me at all but blizzard’s this policy that they can release busted cards and then just flip flop and change it later because you get your “full dust value wink wink” is not a healthy idea. and it might very well affect me in the future.

Let’s be serious then…

You not need much brain cells to build an deck but you need they to actually manage an card game collection in any game.

Dust refund for the card itself is the best affordable thing they can really do and people should not be dusting cards just to build decks.

If someone doesn’t understand that they should not dust cards every time the metagame changes and that come with an answer from your own collection is part of the game then said person is just an terrible player.

Blizzard is literally giving an pre build deck for new players start recently so even they should be able to actually have an point to start.

Don’t be that guy. There’s no such thing as ‘free’ in the world of business.