this druid get 2840 armor in one turn and has jade idol so he never runs out of cards. i had 2 mal’ganis and still lost. what are u suppose to do he summon a jade idol every turn and they get stronger and he has gain 3 attack each turn its 100% lost that durid will have a 100% win rate because its broken af
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Ignoring the fact that several OTK decks do beat it regardless, not teching in Skulking Geist is a grave mistake in case you do face this Druid deck frequently.
It immediately wins you the game.
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I was willing to take OP seriously for about 0.5 seconds on the grounds they were talking about a Kael’Thas variant of Druid.
They were, in fact, not doing this.
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If only there was a Card that Destroys all 1 mana Spells so they can’t go Infinite Jade or gain Infinite Armor. If only there was a card that destroys all Armor. Blizzard would never make something like that.
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Fun fact. I once used Blood of the Ancient One in my Big Priest and was able to smash through all 2000+ armor. I mean it wasn’t ideal, but it worked.
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Platebreaker… tadaaaa
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dont listen to the fanboys who tell you to tech in cards that work specifically to counter one deck. they are trolls who absolutely know that those cards will greatly lessen your chances of winning vs other decks. so get facerolled by druid or tech against it and get destroyed by every other deck. then they will tell you tech vs those…etc…
yes 2500 druid is stupid and broken but fanboys will never admit blizz did anything less than perfection.
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If you don’t see it often enough to be worth teching for it isn’t a problem. Silly to whine about 1 game in 20 dude. You can’t claim it is ruining the meta if you rarely see it lol. Don’t play wild if you can’t handle the odd OTK simple as that.
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you probably wrong…since your argument is so bad you feel forced to resort to fallacies
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If you want to counter Druid’s combo. Just run Dirty rat and play him after they use their Emperor.
Or, if you want to counter Druid- play Skulking Geist.
It is not that difficult!
The Wild problem is not Druids, it is Kaelthes allowing Druids free Ultimate infestation.
Another problem is Quest mages, they are so Broken that people stopped playing Dirty Rat and Skulking Geist and try to counter them instead with Armor Gain, for example - the Druid deck you are talking about.
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Ooooooo fancy. Last time I saw this combo, I had a funny win. Druid was out of removal an he was actually running Mecha’Thun but I had ratted it out an destroyed it that game.
Then he did the 2,000 armor as his last ditch play. What he wasn’t prepared for, was me using Faceless on his massive 1,000 attack minion, then removing his.
So while he had thousands of armor. I had the minion with over 1,000 attack lol. Good fight druid.
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We literally criticize Blizzard all the time. Just because we disagree with you at every turn when it comes to game balance doesn’t mean we think the company is flawless (honestly it’s kind of unrealistic for anybody to follow a corporate entity that religiously).
Decks like the one experienced by the OP have very little representation on ladder and are not OP to any extent that requires a nerf. Therefore, it is on the OP to learn and adapt. If they see 25k armor druid as a big enough problem that they feel it needs to be addressed, there are tech options available that singlehandedly destroy it. This doesn’t even take into account the combo and aggro decks that have a natural advantage against it and render it a garbage deck in the first place. It isn’t suddenly on Blizz to nerf decks you don’t like just because you don’t run any of the wincons or strategies that have an advantage against them.
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you think every deck is underrepresented in this game. mechathun, armor druid, endless generation rogue, etc. no matter what problem deck is brought up you pop right in to say its not a problem.
i addressed your tech suggestions but as usual you just ignore it like teching in things to counter one deck doesnt hamper you against any other deck. dumb suggestion.
I agree on your opinion but not how you try to get your point across.
True Big armor/Giant minions should not exist period. Jades are not bad, not good either. I feel if they are set early on matches they are more difficult, never impossible. There is a simple solution and that is a max cap. Tech solutions exist but they are not viable specially in wild, where some real broken combos co-exist and will make your deck weaker, so to the op I would not advise him to tech something that nobody techs, perhaps switching decks or improving if possible the one that he runs on Wild, and last but not least probably never suggest aggro and/or face spamming… either
Um… in two minutes you can Google what decks are represented the most in either format. There’s no ‘discussion’ to be had here - the numbers speak for themselves. Armor druid is certainly not a common deck anymore.
As to your second point, Infinity absolutely responded to your point about teching. Re-read what he said - if a person is encountering a particular deck often, then of course putting a tech card in would be worth it. If they only fight the deck one in a hundred games, then of course it wouldn’t be worth it.
I imagine there could be some discussion about what frequency you’d have to fight a particular deck to warrant teching against it, but that’s another point entirely.
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yes 2500 druid is stupid and broken but fanboys will never admit blizz did anything less than perfection.
UNITY, PRECISION…
At no point did I (or anyone I think - I’d love to see a source on this) say Rogue was underrepresented (unless there was a conversation about Mill Rogue that I forgot? idk, “endless generation Rogue” isn’t really an archetype so I can’t tell what you’re talking about)
Armor Druid is less than 0.3% of the Wild meta. How can you, with a straight face, tell me that the seventh most played archetype of the least popular class in Wild is also a deck that is OP and in need of a nerf?
Mecha’Thun Warlock is higher at 4% of the Wild meta, but still isn’t popular enough and doesn’t have a high enough winrate to justify a nerf. The only genuinely oppressive matchup it has is Quest Mage, meaning that even the Quest Rogue excuse of “this deck is extremely polarizing” doesn’t necessarily apply.
If these decks are not overwhelmingly popular or powerful on ladder, and fit none of the criteria traditionally used for a game balance change, then why do they need one?
Source on meta representation:
As mentioned before, that’s because they aren’t. By any and every objective measure, neither deck poses a threat to the balance of the game, therefore a game balance change is not needed.
And just like the usual, you ignore the intent of my post. As mentioned before, 25k armor Druid is a ridiculously small portion of the meta and doesn’t fit the criteria used for a nerf. By and large, this deck is not a threat to OP’s overall winrate, and teching specifically for it would hurt their winrate more than it would help. However, if OP feels the deck is a big enough threat to their winrate that they feel it should be nerfed (despite the fact that there is little to no chance of that happening), then there are several flexible techs available. If the winrate you gain from beating 25k armor druid doesn’t offset your lost winrate in other matchups then I don’t see how you can justify 25k Druid being popular enough to warrant a nerf in the first place.
So… That’s why multiple techs exist, and that’s why several of the best techs work against multiple decks. Platebreaker is the only one listed that can only really be used against 2k Druid, but Dirty Rat has uses against any Combo deck and Skulking Geist is very useful against Warlocks, Jade Druid, the recently popular Kael’Thas Druid, and any Quest variant of Mage. You aren’t sacrificing a lot in your deck by adding one of these (chances are if you’re a Control variant you should be running Geist and/or Dirty Rat already), and the utility provided is tried and true.
I had the same post a while ago and the Blizz fanboys had it removed
Why reincarnate?
cant even make a point that differs from what fanboys think without them flagging it for “wrongthink”. and i can see infinit replying atm…gee i wonder who flagged it???