Discover from deck needs to go! (demonic tutor banned)

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Discover was a fun way to get a RANDOM card included into your deck.

Then it became… .Discover A card from your deck… a bit of randomness to get what you needed.

BUT… Discover a specific card type… Is a problem. Oh… I only run 3 of that type… a guarenteed hit. THAT IS A SEVERE PROBLEM.

There needs to be a minimum amount of that card to be played so randomness can still happen

Druid… Oh yeah gimme that cat, Always +5 attack by turn 5.
Also Druid well i only run 5 Protoss cards… Ooh here is my turn 5/6 Artanis with +5 attack.

Hunter… Ooh I got a zergling, discover chick and Copy discover guy. Can’t miss em. Oh here is my turn 3 Pair of 7/5 zerglings and turn 4 3/2s x 4

Rogue… Oh here i will pull the ONE minion that makes weapon deck work and i get a Draw and a Coin for 1!!! So its FREE??? Cause I rigged it

SO yeah take it from the greatest longest CARD game… ITS BANNED!!!

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You don’t say why. You imply it’s because it’s overpowered, so instead of asking for balance you ask for removal.

I.e. your problem is not that mechanic existing, you just don’t want to lose that much.

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Discover is a saturated mechanic and can be game deciding some times, but it has been present since the very beginning. If you dont enjoy it there are other, more strategic, less rng oriented tcgs options. Maybe this game is not for you anymore and thats not necessarily a bad thing.

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They really need to scale back the tutor in the game outright especially that starcraft nonsense.

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discover a protoss from your deck ? that card doesnt exist and the card in wild to search for demons is called sense demons…not banned

and the druid card uses discover to generate not to search in your deck…

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I wouldn’t say “since the very beginning.” Wasn’t it introduced in like the third or fourth set? I’m sure the original set and Nax did not have it.

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What you don’t get is in the beginning it was discover random cards or spells… it wasn’t YOUR DECK… It was just fun randomness that gave you random cards most people never played with… sometimes you would score a nice one… but it was basicly… I wish I could get a large guy i don’t have in my deck late game

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Only hunter stuff is discover smth from his deck.
All other stuffs you mention 're drawing from their decks, not discover.
And if you feel frustrated because others draw smth from their deck, you always can tinker your own deck to work smoothly, or just ask for non-draw mechanic, every drawing stuff should be banned?

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I do thnk that alien encounters should discout itself just every time you do tracking (either the 1 mana card or the hero power from Naielle)

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Priests discover and buff on top from their deck. Most classes have it in Standard.

There’s also tutoring of cards which is even more powerful sometimes.

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Im talking about what OP mention.

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It was introduced in the League of Explorers expansion, released in 2015… which was 10 years ago.

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Thanks! Yeah, back when Bran had to be on your board for battlecries to trigger twice. I personally haven’t really thought of it before, but most of the cards I despise would be resolved if they had to be on the board for their effects to continue. I wouldn’t actually mind Odyn or Sargeras if when they were removed their abilities ended.

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still does i own that brann

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I was referring to the 8 cost warrior one that was more recently added.

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League of Explorers, patch 4.0 was “Discover”.
Hunters had “Tracking” which originally said;
“Look at the top 3 cards of your deck. Draw one and discard the others”
-That isnt discover, it does not copy, it only draws the selected card,
and also discards the other 2 cards from the deck.

Priests Mindgames and Thoughtsteal took random minions/cards copied from the OPPONENTS deck, not even your own, so thats not a thing either.

And when League of Explorers was added, those Discover cards were not “random cards”, but themed very specifically, like one card gave you deathrattle specific cards, another gave mechs etc, no “random cards most never played with”, if anything, it lead to people pulling out meta stuff without even having it in the deck

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But that would require skills in decision making, we dont do that here anymore. :unamused:

We can say that discover was the little rock that started the never ending avalanche, but it never had to be this way. It was up to them to control it and they never did, because they never wanted.

And the upcoming dark gift mechanic is the next stage of discover insanity. They wont learn because they dont want to. This path leads to their or the game’s doom sooner or later.

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There was literally no way to make the Starcraft set be as impactful as it was without targeted tutor. That set needed to hit a home run because it was a cross promotion and that’s basically how they did it with such a limited card pool.

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If only ‘Inspire’ had caught on instead…

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Discover doesn’t copy either if it says “from your deck” (it only draws). It gets to my nerves a little because I find the language not descriptive (a long history in the game doing that).

It’s also super confusing when you go to Battlegrounds because there Discover does not just conjure a card off thin air but it has a hidden meaning “remove from the Tavern”.