While this is true, what he is saying is he see the face archetype (am I using that word correctly?) at all ranks.
But you also see deep control decks piloted by skilled players, and face isnât the be all end all it is at lower ranks.
What are these deep control decks that beat the face decks?
I donât see them. And neither do Vicious Syndicate and Tempostorm in large enough numbers to put them in their Tier lists.
You understand that 9 Stars is top 10% right? So please stop insinuating that my problem is that I am just playing at too low a level.
Okay, sure. The tier lists are the ultimate authority and it does not matter how you slice the data it is the same at every point on the ladder.
You win.
You canât even answer the question.
Apparently you donât even know what those control decks are that you are talking about.
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I donât usually talk to walls, friend. Good day, sir.
Well, it seems to me the real question is how are face players distributed. As Selwynn points out, that distribution is certainly not equal among all ranks. It varies. So, how does it vary?
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Donât waste your time. He is right. There is no difference between the decks played at bronze and top 1k legend. There is no more control in legend than there is at the almighty 9 stars MMR. Never mind Control Priest is making a comeback on smorc deck meta, we are wrong.
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I donât claim my experience is almighty.
I am not the source of saying that, for example, at both all Ranks and even more specifically D4-Legend, Control Priest isnât favored against Hunter and Demon Hunter.
Because I know I have a personal bias I abstain from using my game experience. It was you who inserted my game experience by claiming:
No. I donât see it.
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Clearly you donât see it.
I canât actually rub your nose in it or I would.
Could you go ahead and show me where face hunter is the #1 deck at top 1k legend?
I told you
but you say
and I say
but you donât want to see this so you say
So I say
Again, I can lead a horse to the water, but I canât make him drink.
Stop it with the Straw Man.
My claim isnât that the meta is all the same at all Ranks. It never was.
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But wasnât it? Go ahead and identify exactly what you think your point was and we can start over from there.
That at all levels Hunter and DH perform better than Mage, the latest nerf target.
I was actually wrong. At the lower levels DH doesnât perform better.
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100% props to you, friend, for that. Thank you.
I am not super excited about the mage nerf, but I get why it happens.
I also get that face decks get weaker as the ladder gets stronger.
I donât have a fight or ill will towards you. I simply think there is a great deal of disconnect between different parts of the player base, and what works for some is wrong for others.
I am not sure which is most important, only that blizzard seems to value the most skilled players more than noobs like me.
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Let me say it again.
At the lower Ranks DH doesnât perform better.
Which is exactly the same thing as saying that it performs better at the higher Ranks.
So are you saying DH is better at bronze or legend?
I donât know about Bronze specifically.
But itâs better at top 1000 Legend than at Diamond.
No this is not the true. The top thousands of the legends is not the hunters of the demons. What statistics the program you find for this thing?
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Not anymore.
Now Face decks are beyond critique, noble above all else; with everything thatâs not a face deck being a toxic deck that must be nerfed out of existence ASAP.
There are plenty of people who donât like aggro decks. The problem is that in order to beat aggro you need to change your deck building to include quite a bit more healing and reactive cards, and cut down on late game to invest in a better early game. And what does that do? It gives you a pretty good chance of beating aggro decks, but now your deck gets flattened by the very decks that aggro preys upon. Anti aggro decks are capable of stopping hunter and demon hunter, but they get overrun hardcore by value decks⌠which are the very decks that aggro feasts upon.
Ramp, Yoink, Generators, Infine Combos, Mana Cheaters; theyâre the enemy that Face nobly fights in the name ofâŚ
And also the decks that deter people from trying to stop aggro, because whenever an anti aggro deck faces one of them they get completely outvalued by the random generation. Itâs literally the same kind of rock paper scissors cycle weâve seen for ages. Anti aggro decks eat up aggro decks, which in turn feast upon late game value generator decks, while those late game value generator decks crush the anti aggro decks utterly.
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Vicious Syndicate.
The reason they do better is because Mage is far more popular there than anywhere else.
The premiere anti aggro class is Paladin, and itâs significantly more popular at Diamond.
Paladin isnât popular at top 1000 Legend because it isnât a good fit for the 4 decks lineups right now which commonly include both Mage and Priest.
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