You are correct. Just thought it was interesting to consider that 99.9% of all decks go face to win at some point.
The point is, is that demon hunter and hunter hit the opponentās face in a different way than other, non-face decks. You were being disingenuous and pretending that thereās no difference and that essentially face decks do not exist as an archetype.
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I dont want to wrangle. You know very well what is my article about. About primitive easy and cheap removals together with all those weapons and skills.
I didnt expect something like this and I am disguisted. Thats reason I wrote this. period
There are decks that are very good against it if you are facing it often. Be aware they have other bad match ups in the meta however. But it is far from an unbeatable deck. And it is up to you to choose if you want to win or stick to your deck not them to make all decks that are bad match ups to be nerfed to make you better.
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To me going face is like taxes. It seems most everyone believes in some form of taxes, but the political argument is how much? I view going face the same way. Everyone believes in going face, but how much? Of course a pure face deck is an archetypeā¦but saying going face is lazy does not make sense to me.
Unfortunately thereās a ever growing group of players who think face decks are the most noble and ethical of deck types.
They band together to complain about how any other type of decks are toxic and full of āfeels badā moments.
I donāt disagree with you that anyone saying going face is necessarily lazy or simple are mostly wrong.
Going face is on a spectrum. But we have arbitrary thresholds at which we consider that this much face damage while ignoring the opponentās board enough is considered face. At another arbitrary threshold we consider an archetype something else. However, we shouldnāt throw away the terms because theyāre subjective. Theyāre useful because it helps us to communicate and agree upon what archetype this deck is and that deck is.
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The game has had the most vocal group against so-called mindless face decks or board vomit decks since the earliest days of beta. It has always been this way.
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Looking above at the deck types you have been able to build, unfortunately most of your decks donāt match up well with Demon Hunter.
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Not anymore.
Now Face decks are beyond critique, noble above all else; with everything thatās not a face deck being a toxic deck that must be nerfed out of existence ASAP.
Ramp, Yoink, Generators, Infine Combos, Mana Cheaters; theyāre the enemy that Face nobly fights in the name ofā¦
Dumbing the game down?
Says the person posting in a nerf dumb face decks thread. k.
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I think heās referring to face players. Thatās to say whenever a complaint is made, such as this topic, face warriors (albeit understandably) defend the concept. Only trying to clarify ā Iām not anti-face.
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Funny you made this thread. I was just playing in standard and realized I have no respect for anyone who plays hunter or demon hunter.
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Easy solution. Play anti-face and win. Moving on.
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While I could read his sarcastic take on the situation. What he actually said isnāt parroted by anyone. My point however just read the thread.
And no, people saying there is more than drop minions and go face its so easy are not right. I have challenged the people who make the claim continuously to load up some replays of just playing and going face with the awesome win rates. I have never seen it done once. Well there was that fake video athene made years ago if that gives you any clue that it doesnāt actually happen.
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Itās not parroted like that.
It usually goes where the players will complain about another play style, and when any other players raise the objection about the power level of face decks, it gets dismissed because every card game has aggro.
Itās particularly egregious because the other play styles that get complaints usually have lower win rates than the face decks.
The dumbing down of the game, as far as Iām concerned, is when other play styles are nerfed to death such that players have less deck types they need to consider and try to understand how to defeat, to succeed on ladder.
I ask them if it is so easy why they havenāt ridden one to legend yet instead of complaining, but same thing.
It usually boils down to control is too slow and tempo isnāt around, not face decks are too op.
At what level?
This game is different at different points on the ladder, and nerfs are rarely related to bronze 10 or casual play.
I have yet to see a nerf I didnāt agree with. Some may have been too strong, but the cards needed changes. And I might have forgotten or missed some, but as a general statement I havenāt been upset or blindsided by changes.
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At all levels.
I am personally a 9 Star player in Standard.
Many teams are criticized for going all offense and skimping on defensive players.
Aggro decks are cheap and easy to play. The devs want new or f2p players to play them because it doesnāt take any skill and the cards are usually easy to get.
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The meta is not the same at all levels. The decks you see at different MMR and ranking change.
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