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So looks like Rogue almost got a board clear.
If the Warrior Scheme is any indication for a hastily introduced card, I expect the Rogue plague might also be garbage (Plague of Venom, give all minions Poisonous).
I’m gonna break down the positives before I rip right into Iksar.
So it’s a huge sign they want to add a subset of cards in between the expansions. No more than 40 was speculated. An will make changes to shake up the meta given the feedback. Much like the Rise of Mech event not long ago.
Priest fans you guys are gonna lose Divine Spirit at some point. They we’re discussing it a lot, its hinted at greatly.
Now because I can’t focus anymore on positives sorry boys… the following is a direct quote from Iksar.
Barnes comes up as a topic of conversation a lot and its something weve been looking at a little closer in the last week or so as Saviors of Uldum gets closer and closer to release. One of the biggest concerns weve had with changing Barnes is that the Resurrect Priest deck is a favorite of many Wild players, and taking away Barnes might make it feel like they cant play their favorite deck anymore. The spirit of Wild to some degree is that it should be a place where you can go to play your favorite deck no matter when you come back to the game.
Wild is a place where we can play our favorite deck? Then why did Razakus get nerfed before it had a CHANCE in wild? It was apprently forever fine for all of standard though.
I don’t care about if players whine about Barnes ruining there favorite deck if he gets nerfed. THAT INSTANT TURN 4 WIN NEEDS GUTTED! If thats the case bring back alllll the unfair garbage. Star Aligner Druid couldnt instant win on 4. They could on 6 but hey…MY FAVORITE DECK CRIESSSSS.
This is allllll the proof I need to see you do not EVER listen to feedback. Who has been telling you guys people enjoy Big Priest? Some that says lots of people are playing it???
People play it because its massively oppressive. Its winrate isnt outrageous because the people will play ANYTHING it takes to get a chance at winning. Have you seen the slur of aggro decks being played?
Why dont you guys look at something important. Remember how you nerfed Iron Beak Owl because you decided you didnt like neutral silence? EVERY AGGRO DECK MUST PLAY THEM ANYWAY TO BEAT BIG PRIEST PERIOD.
Edited for Language by the Moderation Team.
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Now, that they finally realise Big Priest CAN exist without Barnes, they are gonna do something??? Makes no sense as its the rez mechanic itself which needs to be addressed.
I am glad that he is (likely) gonna be hit, but its simply not enough at this point in time to hit him alone, especially if they continue to support the deck in future sets. More needs to be done IMO. Maybe not now, but soon.
If you’re not gonna overhaul the graveyard mechanic, at least give us a decent tech card like, as I have posted before:
2m 3/4
BC: summon 3 random (1) cost minions for your opponent.
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I honestly didn’t know what I expected from this.
I don’t even know why the HS team bothered with this, didn’t learn a single new thing
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well we know they use all the ideal throwing stuff that people use to make custom HS cards are the same method, that’s something new you can take, and the fact they listen to theory craft expansion means they might barrow elements from those for ideals also
Big Mcprops to you for saying what had to be said.
This Q and A has really shown how downright stupid the devs are, and how dumb they think we are.
I’m sick and tired of all this garbage, if you guys don’t want to nerf big priest because it’s an expensive and makes you devs money, then just say it. Us wild players are fed up with all this “We don’t want to nerf it because people love it” BS, because it’s just a downright lie.
No one likes big priest. The deck is a cancer on the wild format. It’s boring to play and boring to play against, and has been terrorising the format for 2 bloody years! The deck literally just hero power passes until it draws shadow essence or Barnes, how is that fun?
Blizzard, you guys just suck at the people person game. First you completely ignore your playerbase, but then when you actually “listen” and reply, all you do is spit out lies and stupidity and it’s just a joke at this point.
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Its funny that when a deck like, say, Quest Rogue is “too popular for its win rate” it gets nerfed, but when it comes to BP its 'cos “people enjoy playing it”
Fun fact: many people enjoyed playing 50% win rate Quest Rogue as well, didnt stop them from nerfing it… TWICE!!!
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That’s because you only needed 1 or 2 legendaries for Quest Rogue.
Can’t nerf the big expensive big priest deck, or people won’t buy packs to craft it!
Ever wonder why you can only get wild packs with cash and not coins?
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If they’ve been discussing it like they’ve been discussing Barnes, I’m pretty sure Divine Spirit is going to one day be the only evergreen card left in Hearthstone (sometime right before the heat death of the universe).
To be honest, “don’t kill the deck because there’s a lot of fans of it” makes more sense than “this deck makes us money,” for a number of reasons:
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The obvious reason: fewer people play Wild. It’s simply not as big a money-maker as Standard, so if anything it’s the format less likely to be hit by changes aimed at promoting card purchases.
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As it’s been pointed out by many people, the deck is very much average in the long run (in terms of winrates). Sure, part of it is because of how the meta has warped itself around it, but part of it is also the downside of the Barnes highroll: no Barnes on 4, Barnes summoned in turns 5/6 is the same as doing nothing for the first six turns of a game in a format that is much faster than Standard.
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Wild is a more stable format than Standard, which means Wild archetypes tend to be playable (if not as dominant) for longer. As long as your archetype doesn’t rely heavily on Classic cards (RIP Mana Wyrm), deck archetypes don’t seem to change once they’ve been established for a while.
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Blizzard has a long history of keeping certain bits of gameplay alive even when the community hates it, because of the players who enjoy playing these bits. And while I don’t play BP personally, I can’t deny that the idea of summoning constant waves of massive minions sounds really effin’ cool.
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I skimmed through it: Reborn mechanic = res priest shenanigans.
Considering getting rid of Divine Spirit. Lets gut more classic priest cards!
Barnes is still a thing.
Needless to say, I’ve barely been completing my quests and haven’t bothered to ladder at all this season. I keep hoping for something to be done about Barnes and now they are considering taking away DS?
But Barnes is still a thing.
Yeah, okay.
And Wild is still a place where I can play my favorite decks?
Like Nagalock?
Razapriest?
StarAligner Druid?
But no, Barenes isn’t a problem. On top of all that, you want to release more cards between xpacs making it even harder on F2P/newer players.
You still haven’t done anything about Barnes.
Priest still has nothing in its classic set.
I sincerely doubt I will ever see an xpac that genuinely excites me ever again…this is just depressing.
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My guess? It was a marketing-focused AMA aimed at hyping up the upcoming expansion, rather than a rapport-focused AMA aimed at connecting with the community. Unsurprising, given the timing of it, but still unfortunate in terms of its depth. Hopefully the next AMA will be more aimed toward addressing community concerns. And hosted here instead of Reddit.
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Well now you just outed yourself on sarcasm, can’t take this post seriously 
This forum doesn’t even get announcements…
I think there’s a fundamental disconnect between forumgoers and forumrunners. Forumgoers (that’s us!) seem to expect the official forum is a place where they can get every information because it is communicated there by the staff - after all, it’s the official place, so it should be the first place where you can get any information. Forumrunners, on the other hand, seem to cling hard to their idea of a place where players can discuss without outside influences. This is the space they’ve given to the players, and only the players are supposed to interact here, and if a Blue shows up, it’s a casual and private visit, not any official statement.
EDIT: since they asked for feedback on new effects on old legendaries… I think Tirion effing Fordring is important enough to have at least a small flash on entrance, isn’t he?
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Tirions chest and thighs are fully covered, and his art displays no blood.
Your request has been denied.
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the choir that makes his entrance sound effect will now show up. Will be enough? 
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Interesting thx for posting!
“•Priest not having board clear in the core set lets them make the class feel different each time they print a new one” Just lol at this.
"•Divine Spirit is a card that restricts design and is a potential candidate for future changes.◦They don’t like designing cards that make use of Divine Spirit as the win condition.
◦Due to the card, you’re more likely to see a 6/4 minion in Priest instead of a 4/6.
That’s sad because priest likes high hp minions due to its hero power.
•The team has a more open outlook going forward towards changing cards more frequently.
This worries me,more frequent changes because of balance reasons yes,more frequent changes just to change the meta,(to make people need all the cards from an expansion in the end and not only the cards for the top decks right after the expansion) no.
•There are no plans for any card changes on or before the Uldum launch.
What about 2 or 8 weeks after launch? Not meaning specific balance isues due to the new cards but changes that are done for balance/design reasons in the future or changes just to shake up the meta. Any plans for that?
•Barnes has the team in a rough spot. Changing it could hurt the Res Priest archetype. Dean Ayala thinks the archetype may function without it.
Dean ayala is right,res priest can function very well in wild without barnes. I think it wouldn’t change all that much in the end.
Dean “Iksar” Ayala is curious if players think a small amount of new cards being released between expansions would be a good idea. A small release being 5-40 cards.
yes I would very much prefer this over hoffing or killing classic cards halve way the expansion to change the meta.
Dean ayala has some good ideas.
I think we wil see this often.
The hard beliefs on the class identity will ruin cycles in the design phase and cards will get nerfed to trash or replaced by a card that was cut or slated for the future.
Rogue plauge was probably a AOE to all undamaged minions or a heavy vanish.
It’s probably a FoN variant. 1 damage to all + some Roguey effect.
They said that?
How is Priest going to win if they don’t have divine spirit + inner fire when all they do is playing single big minion usually? Now that Mind Blast ist HoF and Resurrect + Deathrattle is super annoying?
Why nerf avianna and no barnes
Resurrection and Broken Dragon Synergy.
They are designing Priest to be annoying.