I am using Decktracker for some time now.
Today i watched multible youtube video, where Decktracker was able to tell, when the enemy hasa C’tun card in hand and could even tell whitch one it is.
First: How is that possilble? Decktrcker should not be able to see what the enemy has in his hand.
Second: That is Cheating right? Whitch means i have to delete Decktracker.
I’ve seen the C’thun cards show up in the opponent deck tracker, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a C’thun spell being identified in my opponent’s hand. Do you have a replay of the game where this happened?
I’ve seen it happen where when I’m playing against a Cthun with deck tracker, the card disappears from my opponents list before they play it also.
You’re right.
I said once and got bashed but I gonna say it again.
It not really matters for what you use your third party program.
If it is a third-party program it already gives blizzard the right to ban you without any refund.
That alone should be enough to make people understand what they’re into.
The “but it’s allowed and not give any unfair advantage” argument dies in the water the exact instant something odd happens.
Actually even if blizzard bans you for accident or whatever reason they can just tell “you used third-party software” and it gonna be justification enough for you not be able to get your account back.
at 15:50 you can see, that 2 cards from the enemy are marked as C’tun cards. Trump even comments on this. And the opponent plays one of them next turn to proof that it was a C’tun card
You saw pieces of C’Thun to be shuffled into the deck, right? So DT doesn’t do anything you cannot do with a pen and paper.
If you are afraid just turn off overlay and everything will be fine.
I noticed this too. I’ve opted to turn off my deck tracker when playing against a C’thun deck.
You are not understanding. When a C’thun piece is drawn by your opponent, you can see not only that he drew a C’thun piece, but exactly which C’thun piece it is. You cannot do that with pen and paper.
I do but as said - just turn off the overlay.
I don’t think you do. You seem to think that you can do what it’s doing with pen and paper. You cannot know which card is coming out of the deck with pen and paper. If the card was turned face up when drawn (like Brood mother as an example), then you could track it. But it’s not. Only players using the decktracker have this advantage.
Yes. And as said:
But that doesn’t change the fact that players using the decktracker have an unfair advantage.
They always had some sort of unfair advantage, why have you started to cry only now?
Deck trackers, outside of this case, are not an unfair advantage. They don’t do anything that couldn’t be done with pencils and paper or a good memory.
Use your brain FFS. This has already been brought up on Reddit as an error by the devs of HSReplay and they admit it shows a C’thun piece as drawn, this is an error on the HS Server side and with what data they send. Why are you being such a moron?
It’s not really cheating, no. It’s available to all, and Blizz devs have come out and said they’re alright with it. There are also no accessibility issues, so no one can really claim that it’s an undue advantage.
In the words of Blizz it’s “no different from writing it down on a piece of paper.”
It’s also widely used on ladder, and even assumed for competitive events, so you’re really just artificially limiting yourself if you refuse to use it.
If Blizz did forbid it, or it weren’t available to all players, then you could argue it’s cheating, but neither of those things are true.
Because stupid lies like “They don’t do anything that couldn’t be done with pencils and paper or a good memory” always piss me off.
Because you can’t automatically know that a C’thun piece is in your opponents hand with memory or a pen and paper. When a C’Thun piece is drawn it shows a C;thun symbol next to their card, the same as if they drew, i dont know, Ysera and it told you what it was.
Except mobile users.
You CANT do this with pen and paper, thats the point.
It is cheating. It literally shows you cards in your opponents hand. Why the HSDT devs included this in their program is beyond me. They have compromised many thousands of accounts in doing so. They should have just reported it to Blizz and left it out of the app completely.
Thing is, you can say it’s cheating all you want, but unless Blizz agrees with you, it isn’t. Cheating means breaking the rules, and Blizzard makes the rules, no one else. The competitive format of the game is what it is, ropes, deck tracker, created by and all.
It is giving you info you shouldnt have access to. If not cheating, its exploiting.
Stop already. You cant do it with pen and paper, therefore goes against the criteria Blizzard gave for use of deck trackers. They would be well within their rights to hand out bans for its use. I doubt they will, they cant afford the backlash atm, but they could if they wanted to.
If Blizzard comes out and tells everyone to stop using them, then you’ll be right. But until then, it’s not cheating, it’s not an exploit, it’s just part of the game.
And it would be pretty poor practice to just ban people for using something they already said we could use without giving us a warning.
You can dislike it as much as you want, you may even have good reasons to but whatever they are is beside the point. Until it’s against the rules, calling it a cheat or an exploit is just incorrect.