I am interested in what ya all think are the decks that take the most skill to play at the moment in the meta:
Egg warrior is one for me
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a better question would be “decks that takes the most skill to play” as the skill level between decks within a class can vary a lot
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Edited to decks! 20 char
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Skill floor or skill ceiling?
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Skill ceiling, I am also adding gala rogue to the list, they take some skill to play, knowing when to hold cards, to board clear, or go face, knowing when to play gala if ya have him hand but not fully invoked
I would guess something like Libram paladin or Highland Shaman.
Nah, not really.
Oh yeah, add Quest Warrior to the list.
How about none with broken discovery.
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That would depend on the type of discovery, no? Some decks (Highlander Mage, Pure Paladin) run a few discover cards that can be of limited usefulness, so it requires a better understanding of the deck/matchup to maximize its power. By comparison, a more straightforward deck like Demon Hunter, where you know all your cards, is much more linear and would require a less flexible approach to play it.
Of course, at some point you can have decks like Galakrond Rogue, where the sheer amount of discover effects eliminates the need for adaptability, since you can always generate more discover cards to eventually find the answers you need.
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the deck that currently has the highest skill ceiling is probably quest lock. in theory it sounds easy: finish quest, draw your combo pieces, win. in reality it has a very narrow balance of when to use your removal, when to heal, when do you play for board, when do you shuffle back heal/tempo/removal or do you wait even if it delays your quest completion, when do you sacrifice combo pieces as removal etc etc
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None.
Unless we are talking from “new to HS” player’s pov.
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You can look at this objectively by seeing which decks have higher win rates relative to other decks the higher you go in rankings. All variations of Warrior benefit quite a bit from a high-skilled pilot (Egg, Enrage, Pirate, Bomb). Also Spell Druid sees a nice increase when played by top players.
And yet I see my opponents make mistakes all the time, I recognize my own mistakes when looking back at games and I even see streamers making mistakes.
Of course seeing the mistakes takes some skill so if you aren’t very good at all you won’t see it.
Also, when playing a deck, I learn and improve and I can guarantee that I play a deck better when I play it the fiftieth time than when playing it for the third time.
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Yeah that and the reliable 1 2 3 RNG.
Warlock Shuffle Shuffle deck.
Um okay I just use destroy minions gain life spells during the early 1 - 4 board control phase. Then I use my “discover” 2 demon cards. I am going to pick Aranasi Broodmothers to Disover cuase now I have 4 of them in my deck for when I do my shuffle shuffle maneuver.
I always have my Plot Twist cards so you won’t be able to kill me when I do my shuffle shuffle for endless life.
After I do my shuffle shuffle I will drop Khartut during midge so you can’t kill me and I just keep going up in health vs down.
I also have deal 1 damage for every card in my hand so I will wipe your board that way as well.
Have you seen this pattern before? Yes, every time I face a shuffle shuffle deck. Oh? Then why can you beat it if you know exactly what I am going to do? Because the game is rigged tone rock paper scissors and no matter what you do, there is little to no chance I am going to beat that deck with what I am using.
No skill required. Just the best cards inserted to a deck and forced matchups. Flop em and plop em.
I only just hit legend the first month of this season and haven’t really touched constructed since. (Been trying to get top 200 in BG)
But based on Vicioussyndicate you can kinda get a hint from comparing “D5-D10” winrates with “Legend” winrates.
To me it looks like Galakrond priest takes the cut with 47.7% winrate at D5-D10 but 48.41% winrate at Legend.
Gala Priest is the most difficult deck to play. In the hand of a good player, he can pilot the deck straight to rank 1 of legend at 80% win rate. In the hand of the other 99% bad players, Priest would be lucky to get 50% WR.
sounds like bronze 10 at best as you list multiple cards that just isnt played in the deck
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i both agree and disagree, gala priest do have a very high skill ceiling for optimal gameplay. but currently the quest lock has the same type of decision trees as priest, but they have less room for error than priest making it a bit more difficult to play.
I feel like Warlock and Warrior decks are way beyond my comprehension in terms of brain power, so I’ll say that egg/aggro Warrior and the Handlock or Malygos Warlock are.
Making mistakes has nothing to do with “skill”. Unless you are doing obvious mistakes all the time over and over again - basically new player.
I think indisputable majority of mistakes are just a result of lack of concetration than being “bad”.
Thats also true. And that is also retaled to “new to HS” pov I have mentioned.
Lets say you are trying a new deck. Lets say control priest. You have played months already and you have played several priests and control decks already. Maybe even some form of control priest before.
So you should be able to perform better than completely new player or player with little to no experience with control, priest or control priest decks.
Does that mean you have more skill or that the deck is somehow skill intensive? Hell no.
Is writing down words skill intensive? Well…if you have never seen letters it is. It looks like magic formula. But does it mean its actually hard to master to write “SKILL” for example?
Nope.
Same with decks in HS. In pretty much no time you can “git gud” playing certain deck unless you just decide you dont give a damn.
Are certain deck more skill intensive? Well…if you think its harder to write down “VODKA” than “BEER” because vodka has 5 letters and beer has only 4 letters (and 2 of them are same) then yes. Its true, there are indeed easy to learn and hard to learn decks in HS.
Yeah Warrior and Demon Hunter and Rogue all get a lot of flak for being really powerful, but they do take good decision making to play effectively.
I think enrage warrior is probably the hardest deck to play anywhere close to its full potential.