I just had a Mage / Demon Hunter battle and froze all the minions. His 8/8 minions are given the ability to rush after the hero attacks me directly. It seems a little messed up that a frozen creature can still attack when it has already been frozen. Pretty much defeats the whole idea of using a freeze spell. Just my two bits of course. - Teenibop
I get where youre coming from, but it is the faulty wording of the card. It’s because it is an effect of the hero attacking. Its a trigger off that
I made a post about the inconsistency of this a while ago and did extensive testing. It seems that Frozen only stops normal attacks not extra attacks or triggered attacks. For example, the frenzy minion that attacks when it takes damage and survives will still attack if it’s frozen.
This one isn’t even tricky, though. The card text clearly says what will happen… after you hero attacks something, that minion will too.
yes but frozen text says “this minion cannot attack” hence the confusion. dont be a dick
The minion isn’t attacking. It is doing what it does after your hero attacks. It’s completely separate from the minion attack and OBVIOUS.
Have you never seen this minion played to the board, rush to destroy a taunt, then go face for a second attack on the turn played because the hero then went face after the taunt was removed through rush?
It’s clearly working as intended. There are two different conditions, the minion attack and the reaction to the hero attack.
The wording for frozen is “Frozen characters lose their next attack” which is only referring to the one the player gives next turn. I dont really know how you rework that to make it more specific.
I thought frozen was “skip your next attack”, which would still be wrong.
“Can’t attack for a turn” would be easier to understand and also more logical (and would negate the effect of illidari)
Working as intended or not, the effect seems designed to spawn arguments.
I swear Team 5 does things like this on purpose.
But it’s not about the minion. To stop the card you would have to freeze both the card (the card’s attack) and the hero (reaction to hero attack).
the card says “After your hero attacks a target, this ATTACKS it too” which is what i said in my first post. the fact the wording says it ATTACKS is why it is confusing
I get why you are upset. How can a card attack when it was already frozen?
But Sel is right. The card reacts to the Hero being able to attack.
Freeze the hero and the board and this won’t happen.
No, that’s not how this game works and it’s consistent with the card text.
It doesn’t say “after your hero attacks a target, this tries to attack the same target … if possible… maybe… if the opponent didn’t freeze or have a special card or something.”
It says EXACTLY what WILL happen.
Freeze has nothing to do with it because you aren’t actually manually moving the card.
Just like iceblock won’t save you from death by fatigue damage on your own turn…this card WILL attack anything your hero hits.
no, cuz IB is a secret, which is only active on your opponents turn…
the mechanic is that it’s attacking. yes? freeze stops things from attacking. its like talking to patrick and im man-ray trying to give you your wallet. i understand how the interaction works, you just want to create negativity and tell people “well duh it’s obvious” and not take a step back and realize “oh maybe it isn’t obvious, maybe there are people that don’t understand it’s a trigger, and will happen regardless of the card-state”
You clearly don’t or you wouldn’t have made a new thread about a card that has been in standard for 18+ months.
Except it’s obvious to anyone who has played the game in the last two years.
I’m sorry the truth makes you feel stupid. That’s still a you problem more than a me problem.
You don’t have to be so mean. This is why you have a problem with almost everyone.
I was admittedly surprised to find this out initially. It can seem intuitive that freeze stops all attacks, but as others have stated, it doesn’t. Good for demon hunter.
What’s making the creature attack isn’t rush. It’s the effect which forces it to attack.
Freeze worked just fine, or it would have attacked by itself too. It only seems conterintuitive because most of us have a feeling for what keywords do instead of knowing for a fact what they do.
Frozen minion can’t attack, but why it attack?
Yep, and if you freeze the players face as well as the minions then the effect cannot work.
It might be powerful or even too powerful, but that is a different argument.
We all know Blizzard’s devs aren’t the best programmers. Frozen should mean Frozen. The fact that minions can still attack because their master attacks the opponent is bs. What’s the Demon Hunter doing? Throwing the frozen demons bodily at the opponent?