Cheating going 0n?

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I am not a programer, so I have not figured this out yet. Playing games I have now noticed that players seem to have some type of robot on. They only use their weapon, wait the enitre time just to “Rope-Out”. then after my turn, it happens agian. Is this possible?

I have also noticed that some players will have 3 Gold Legend cards with out a “copy” card? How is this possible?

One other thing I have notice (rare) is that I will be doing well, and all of a sudden they play a card that “Destroys” my hero? I try to see what the card is but because the game is over I cannot get to see the card. Is there such a card?

This only seems to happen when I get close to leveling beyond silver.

Are these cards you have to buy? I know buying cards gets you higher faster but, come on, for us who play the natural way (losing and winning) sure wonder how they do it.

Do some people who know how to program get into the back of the software and change the rules?

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Well, #1 is controversial & problematic. My advice: Don’t worry about it, take the free, easy win & move on.

#2 Through “discover” players can draw additional copies of Legendary Cards. So, there’s nothing untoward going on, & their decks started with just the one.

#3 There is a Quest Reward that kills your hero on the spot. Your opponent has to jump through a few hoops to get the card that is then added to their deck. They still have to draw it & have 10 mana to play it. You shouldn’t really regard this as extraordinary as most classes, if not all classes, have a win condition.

Each class has things that cause players who face them to cry, “Foul”. That’s why you see so many threads that say things like, “Blank is OP, broken, busted” “Blank needs nerfed, now”, & why you see threads railing against the developers.

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Thanks for the reply: I already do that in the #1 question. Just a nutice to wait.

#2 What discover cards that you know of that would allow 4+ Legend cards. I would love to get my hand on that card. I use the copy cards if I can to get it but I have never got more than 2 cards of the same Legend.

#3 can you tell me the Quest Card that allows you to kill off the other guys Hero. (Please)
Or even what hero has this?

Thanks for the fast reply. I thought 260+ pages of cards was good but not good enough. LOL

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I play Paladin, so that’s the one I know best; there are several cards like that with this class. I don’t have all of their names memorized yet, as they are all the new “mech” cards. I’ve played six at least twice that I can recall. In your collection use the “Search” function & type in “Discover”.

I think that it’s the Mage Quest. The card is called The Shard, or something like that (again in my mind the cards don’t have names, only stats, eventually I learn some of their names by repeated exposure, but it’s not a big priority for me.) You can’t “own” this card, it’s the reward of the Quest.

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This game has frequent unintended “bugs” that are missed, and as soon as they are discovered many players immediately attempt to use them as often as possible.

Sometimes they are fixed in a day, other times they are there for weeks or longer.

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No, it’s the priest quest, but otherwise you are right

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The things, the OP mentions are not bugs but intended interactions. But otherwise you ar right: the game is buggy at the moment

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Yes. Bots are a somewhat common occurrence in lower MMRs and Rank brackets. They are mostly farming XP for the rewards. This, the long games.

You can copy cards. You can return them to hand. You can discover more copies. It’s dependant on the card in specific, but in very long games I have played the same legendary 4+ times.

There are several. From the top of my head: Seek Guidance, Mechatun and the Paladin’s death knight.

The game runs mostly server side, so anyone capable of that could also get card numbers, y’know? Far more effective a use for that skill

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If all you experts say os true where is the best place to get a hero’s combination of cards? I would like to see the combo you have to have to help win some more games.

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Go check out https://hsreplay.net/

Normally I’d recommend checking out the latest report on https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/ but they haven’t put out their post-miniset one yet. Their podcasts are great if you’re looking for something to listen to in the background.

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Are you new, by chance? No offense, of course. If you have anymore questions, I strongly suggest asking them. Most players here are more than happy to help out.

Edit: And at HSReplay, as Wardrum included, is a good place to find the best decks in the game. You can sign up and upload your collection, this way you can see what you can build, or what you are missing to build a deck.

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Gee I was always taught to ask questions to improve your self. Experience is always the best way to find out things. Sorry for too many questions just want to improve. And no I am not a rookie, with more than 260+ cards not payi9ng for a single one…I might now?

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Yes, you are hard stuck at low level because of cheating and rigged matching, not because you’re terrible at the game. Everyone knows this. You have to buy more packs to level past silver.

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Ask as many as you need to. Make sure to listen to the other players here. There are some really good players lurking around.

I strongly recommend visiting and signing up (for free) to https://hsreplay.net/. From there, you can share your replays with us, and get some pointers.

You can also share the deck list you’re using, because it can probably be refined.

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They shoved discovery everywhere and other create effect that deck building rules don’t even matter anymore. They turned the game into you get as many copies of any card you want if you have enough of the right generators to cover them. Can’t strategically run your opponent out of a card they put in you deck and assume you have seen the last of that card anymore. That over the top Legendary that is only balanced because you are only allowed 1 copy in deck building. Not anymore since they turn the game into clown fiesta high roll generate fest. Now you have to deal with 1000000 copies of that legendary.

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there’s nothing wrong about asking questions, it’s just that when you preface a thread with “cheaters did xyz” some of us oldtimers who are bored out of our mind of seeing such threads pop out when it’s just lack of the player’s knowledge it can become aggravating after a point.

as for paying, that’s up to you. i can say that as a full f2p i’m frequently in top1000 legend, but then again i have been playing since forever. So take that as you will: you either need a lot of time, or you need to pay, that’s the truth. If you go for the long wait (like me) just be patient.

now, for your actual questions:
there are indeed bots farming xp in lower ranks, that’s the #1 you see. Bots just pushing hero power and trying to get as much xp before they lose.

for your #2: someone can either discover multiples of the same card, in the current meta the more prominent such cardsto do so are Amalgam of the deep and mechagorilla. But What you may be seeing is also someone copying a card. As an example, a popular deck in the current meta, galvangar warrior, relies on copying galvangar with faceless manipulator. Another card that straight up copies a card is Zola, that’s also a frequent card to see. A Brann+zola as an example on a legendary will give you 2 more of said legendary as a simple example. Lastly DH is also running Caria nowadays that will double their Xhillags.

Your #3 is the priest quest reward. It’s a late game strategy that’s quite weak, but it’s there and indeed may catch you by surpise the first time. They do need to play a 2-3-4-5-6-7-8 cost card (in somewhat set order) to then get a 10 cost card that kills you shuffled into their deck.

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None of that is true. He doesn’t need to be fed stupid conspiracy theories.

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Selwynn was being sarcastic. Probably moreso than was warranted given the likely inexperience of the OP.

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Of course you white knight blizzard shills all rush in here to stan for the evil empire.

All of it is true. You must pay your way past the ranks, which is why they are named after increasingly precious metals and gems.

Ignorance knows no bounds so neither does my sarcasm.

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Warning, very long reply ahead :blush:

There definitely has been a bunch of cheating going on the last couple of months. Roping bots have been around since the introduction of the Rewards Track (at least that’s when they bexame very prominent) , but those are basically free wins, so not really a big problem. As for game altering bugs, notably the last 2 days the spell Bioluminescence was granting +2 spell power to all your minions instead of +1, so people absolutely flocked to Burn Shaman to take advantage of the bug.

Likewise, there was a bug with another card (blanking on the name atm) that was supposed to buff minions in your deck and it was also working on hero cards and weapons. If you got that down before drawing your hero card, you’d have a permanent attack value for the rest of the game after playing the hero. I think that was a Rogue class card, but I’m a little hazy on the details; I’ve been swamped with my job and haven’t played as much as normal in the last few days.

There were also big problems for a while earlier with Queen Azshara being played with Brann, and similarly with Nellie. The bug would make your opponent unable to act during their turn, or skip their turn completely, and the only way to get unbugged was a full game restart. In many cases, I’m sure that some people were completely unaware of the bugs, but there were many people who were and took advantage of the situation. There have been other bugs like that in the past (the newer version of Ysera comes to mind), but 2 in Journey to the Sunken City expansion and 2 in the Throne of Tides miniset is quite atypical and problematic.

Both bugs were hotfixed yesterday, so I’ll note that if you look at HSReplay to get an idea of what is best since the launch of the miniset, it’s probably going to be inaccurate given that. After a couple of days, it should normalize out.

I’d also note that having a collection of 260 cards does put you firmly in rookie territory, though. Each expansion is around 140 cards, and the minisets tend to be 35 cards. I don’t have every card, but I have a relatively full collection of everything after Un’goro, and HSR says I’m at 7000/7723 cards. Notably, the 2022 Core Set, which is free to all players, contains 250 cards. So, either 1) your collection count is off, or 2) you only have 10 cards that weren’t given for free, or 3) you haven’t unlocked all the Core cards (by hitting level 10 on each hero, which is completely doable in Practice Mode against the Innkeeper, rather than versus players). I suspect it’s probably a combination of 1 & 3.

If 3 is involved, I highly recommend completing that requirement. You will not only get all of the 2022 Core cards unlocked, but you’ll also earn experience towards the Rewards track, which can give you cards or card packs. You won’t get as much experience as you would against another player (and definitely not as much as beating another player), but it’ll still add up while you get more Core cards. So, 2 birds, 1 stone. And once you’ve hit level 10 across all classes, you’ll have satisfied the requirement not just for 2022’s Core Set, but every year afterwards. Well, until they add a new class, but that has only happened once since the game launched, when Demon Hunter was introduced in 2020. They will likely add Monk or Deathknight at some point, but it’s pretty much guaranteed to happen in the first expansion of a year, when set rotation occurs. So, it’s extremely unlikely until 2023 at the earliest, and likely further out. In any case, once that happens, you will just need to level up that class and youre back to a full Core set again.

Hopefully that provides a bit more context and has some information that will help you as you progress. If anything I said is confusing, just reply to this comment so that I get a notification, and I’ll clarify things. I’ll try to keep an eye on the thread in general, but the notifications definitely help remind me. (And if I miss it, hopefully some of the other helpful people around will answer as well.)

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