Change from charge to rush, so that the brain dead players actually have to put some thought in to playing the game.
So you clear the board and then rush into…what?
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Clearly they want imbue hunters to always run dirty rat, and do plush → rat → rush to kill whatever they just pulled. A sufficiently buffed plush would kill almost anything so you’re likely to kill whatever you pulled (which hopefully disrupts the enemy)
I’m not for or against such a change, but just to muse about the ramifications…
If the change goes through, it would give people a much stronger incentive to use the new hound over plush. Or just any other beast to buff besides plush for that matter.
An OTK is still possible but slower by using plush then rat then hound (or maybe use the hunter 1 drop that summons a 2/1 for the opponent, but that’s a beast that might soak up your imbues), so you address the complaints about the current OTK being too fast without completely eliminating any OTK.
I do think if they go through with the rush change, they could buff plush in some other way. Like stats or a keyword like divine shield so it is better in case hunter has to use it on its own as a board clear/reset
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Any minion with less attack than king plush that didnt get bounced, duh
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Which would be nothing.
People who are crying to change Charge to Rush(and there are a lot) don’t seem to have high enough intelligence to realize the imbue hero power is the problem and not the card
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I’m not so sure. There’s a bajillion other beasts out there (especially wild), but how often do you see imbue hunter use another beast with imbue? How often does that yield a result to the level of plush with imbue?
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Any time a player is removing threats en masse while simultaneously developing threats its a problem, and imbue doesnt do that alone.
Its a combination of problems. Like smoking cigs while cutting asbestos.
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Plush is seeing an increase in use BECAUSE of the hero power, before emerald dream how many hunter decks had it included? None, it was all egg/token hunter, soon as hunter got a HP that mana cheats and buffs suddenly you saw him everywhere, even before the mini-set
I fully agree with Raiden here. Unlimited mana cheat is always a problem. How many cards needed to be nerfed because they had/enabled mana cheat?
Yogg Saron Unleashed, Conniving Conman, Innervate, Travelmaster Dungar, Ceaseless Expanse (2 times now), Zilliax Deluxe 3000, Sea Giant, Sorcerer’s Apprentice, Radiant Elemental and the list goes on.
Blizzard should just be more careful with mana cheat. Before the Imbue Hero Power no one cared about Plush.
But the imbue hero power only seems broken because plush has charge and board removal. If it had charge but no board removal then taunts could stick and you would have a bit more defence against it. So the change to rush would at least save face damage.
I would also like to note that legendaries should feel powerful, but all legendaries should have some sort of counter. You could still technically find other ways to buff plush without imbue to get the same effect. Its just easier with imbue.
You didn’t answer the question. How often do you see that hero power be used with other beasts besides plush?
Plush also costs 9, warrior can do the same thing using Brawl then chemical spill grommash all for 10 mana, basically board clear followed by a 10 damage charge
Fairly often, magma hound, the 5/2 rush with imbue deathrattle
The real problem is the 3/2 that copies the lowest cost beast. Without that the deck is not as OP. Pre patch imbue and Plush were not an issue.
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Now the second part of the question: how effective exactly are those compared to plush?
Magma hound can actually be more effective, potential board clear without clearing your own minions, and without the legendary tag you’re allowed more than 1 base copy for better draw, though that’s irrelevant with the 2 drop imbue+draw beast
…compared to plush? So you’re saying you’ve won/lost to hound more than plush?
If Magma was better people would be playing it. At this point people are just being dishonest. Magma might be better after a nerf but for now it certainly is not.
They Will use any beast who can hit face and there are atleast another one as i remember.
Also that hero Power is already broken on a vacuum.
We should not use only math as metric but when anyone crush some numbers It is really easy to get to the conclusion that something is Very wrong with it.
Combined effects are usually more powerfull than the sum of it’s parts and one of the sides is already powerfull alone(giving discount to cards).
Would not Go as Far as to kill the hero Power itself with rework or anything but that king plush deck as it exists has to die due to How meta warping It is.
Just take the attack bonus out of it and let people decide if they still Go OTK route by changing the deck drastically or play It as a big beast deck.
I don’t think the OTK Will be the one surviving but It would be slow enough If It still a OTK deck.
Why was it not such a huge problem before? That is a laughable assumption. 1 card broke this deck not the hero power. If the hero power was so OP how was the deck pre mini set? That hero power without an attack bonus is worthless. Let’s nerf the deck not kill it outright. Take away the charge on Plush and that fixes the problem.