“Each turn this is in your hand, transform it into a card your opponent is holding”. It can very well be considered a copy, yet you don’t steal anything with the new priest legendary.
Very dissapointing. And what’s worse: even if it would be considered a bug, the last time Blizzard repaired a wild bug took them 2+ months, we had huge public complains and the bug was way more obvious.
A sad day my old friend, wish I could play you again at least to experiment a bit.
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Chameleos is tranforming into a card the opponent is holding not copying a card they are holding. It doesn’t say copy it says transform. Havester of Envy specifies copy. Other cards like Thoughsteal say copy.
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Yea think of it like it’s transforming into a replica of the card in their hand, not actually transforming into a copy of it; say, if they had an Agatha’s Scheme, it’d be identical with how much damage it would deal, but it isn’t per se a copy of the card in the sense that it would work with the new Legendary
Really just sinonims. At the end of the day, I played a copy of a card from my opponent’s hand, no matter how we call it.
I can understand your concept but I don’t think it should work like this here. The new legendary is awkward enough already, Chameleos should be a working combo.
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in card game wording is everything doenst matter if 2 cards give you the end result
the wording on the text matters
Not really.
Imagine it this way.
If the card says get a copy whatever this card generates is a valid target.
If the card say anything else it isn’t.
Otherwise priests would just run the most common neutrals and make a robbery fest deck that easy that would probably dominate the meta.
It’s a copy of the card. Not a card equal to the card your opponent is using.
It has to be generated during the match and by cards that explicity use the term copy.
because most decks are carried by common neutrals and the harvester is easy to tutor? i really don´t think a small buff would be even close to making thief priest a meta threat.
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Actually we have a little too much draw right now and soon people gonna figure that.
With that said if you do use cards that are good by themselves then being able to steal some from your opponent deck is just a bonus.
Maybe i exxagerated with “dominate” but it would make copy decks a legit thing at minimal.
It’s a entirely different powerlevel than being a fun meme card that while i personally not mind…
Most people would be ragequitting.
I even commented something about the ultra specific wording in the reveal post.
but you didnt play a copy, you played their card, they just get to keep their card at the same time
if that would be a concern of theirs they would have deleted druid already, never printed jackpot and also not buffed curselock to tier 3.
Very few cards have Chameleos’s situation, most are generated copies.
I can’t see how it will break the meta since it’s really all about Chameleos +2/3 cards getting (a bit of) usefulness(and they are in wild tho). The meta would be the same.
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Just gotta love Hearthstone. “It’s not a copy, it’s a card turned into a copy. Totally not the same!”
Yet at the same time cards that nowhere say they are Imps (such as Ring Matron), are treated as Imps.
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Exactly, what’s your problem? In HS (and all TCG/CCG I know about) wording is crucial.
- Copy is an effect that, well, copies a card (or more), leaving the original intact.
- Transform is an effect that changes a card or minion into another card, erasing the original from the current game - as do polymorph and evolve effects.
When Chamaeleon enters the board, it becomes the board - well, the minion from the opponent’s hand. Be Chamaeleon, my friend!
Didn’t someone from Team 5 made a remark about it, that they went with the portraits? Maybe they will change the tribes in the future. Ring Matron was prolly tagged as Demon because of Warlock’s Demon tribe synergy, but is a special imp, so to say: She’s an Imp Mother, which in Warcraft lore, “breed” Imps through a portal inside their bodies.
I think the problem is not that it works like the wording says, but that the wording is very much not generous for no reason at all.
And then you get sth like Raidboss Onyxia that has just been made a Druid Card and can get immunity of some aggressive leave-piles.
just shows the Team is very biased which class they are handing all the power they can find and whom they are very afraid of handing the smallest of bones.
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I agree and understand this but the way Harvester of Envy work just makes it awkward and way worse.
Why shouldn’t I be able to use Chameleos with it, the main wild thief priest card? Because of some wording? It’s just awkward design, not giving this new tool any opportunity to combo with it whatsoever.
Exactly. I can’t use it in any way and my only tool is some Thoughtsteal and a new spell. For a LEGENDARY. Dissapointed and unfair.
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Not being generous is exactly the idea behind effects and keywords.
As for your further volley - sry, I’m not going into that direction.