Can we remove objection from mage pool?

can we remove objection from mage pool because i only had turn 9 minion in hand and i can’t play it ? ty .

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No. Build your deck better.

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“Secret revealed” - Post removed. Well played.

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save one of your deck cheap minions to test for objection

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This reminds of a time way back when I was playing against a Mage in Arena. Old School Deathwing was the only card I had in hand Mage had a secret up. I had a high life total so I could afford to skip turns for a while. I drew 5 spells in a row and it came down to play the Deathwing or die. I was 90% sure the secret was Mirror Entity at this point. I play my Deathwing and died to the copy. That doesn’t mean they should remove the secret that countered me because this scenario happens. You were outplayed get over it.

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No. Vengeance and salt forever.

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That was kind of the point of the card.

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There’s an argument to be made that objection makes a tone of unrelated cards way better.

For example, rune of the archmage is way better when it casts a secret because objection exists.

Rogue perjury secret is playable mostly to the existence of objection.

Sketchy stranger is strong in rogue yet again thanks to objection.

I’m 99.99 percent certain the devs gave the secondary effects zero thought when they printed this card, they printed it just thinking it would be played from hand.

It almost is never played from hand except when sketchy stranger generates it, lol.

So I do think they should give cards like this extra thought in the future, and consider all the ways it can affect gameplay before printing it.

That said I personally love objection and think we need more cheap disruption like it. Secrets are the one part of the game that can act as a skill gate in a game where everything has been dumbedv down to it’s absolutely most basic form

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Objection is OP. Having to play around both spell blockers and minion blockers is next to impossible for majority of non control decks. Not to mention how fast mages can throw down minions without having to worry while they sit back and watch their secret vomit auto play. Interrupting one or two turns is manageable but interrupting four turns in a single game is stupid.

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If you remove objection!, all minions on the enemy side will come for you and your opponent will never waiver. Objection counters the first minion your opponent plays which could see up a new card playing strategy for them.

I don’t think you understand how broken objection is. If people are conceding after one or two secrets being played and you find yourself winning majority of your games then the deck is broken and needs to be toned down. There is hardly a weakness for secret mage. I’m fairly confident all secret mages filter straight to legend rank in wild.

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Objection is only a problem when a Thief Rogue gets to cast 4+ copies of it in a game with their Contraband Stash/Tess plays that generate boards at the same time. That’s a high roll and not that frequent. Outside of that it’s completely fine. Players these days really want everything to be easy lol.

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Indeed and we could argue the same about Counterspell. Both are fine.

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I’ve never really liked counterspell. I just always thought it was a really polarizing card that was great in certain situations, and then really, really garbage in others. To way too extreme a degree.

Like yeah, sometimes you have the coin or a 1 drop minion or whatever and it sucks, but that’s pretty infrequent, and makes the secret feel awful to play.

Both are extremely badly designed in my opinion. Like I think maybe the worst designed secrets in the game. Outside of like misdirection. Ice Trap is a much better designed card. So is kidnap even. Ambush. Explosive Runes. Okani. So many better counter cards and so many better secrets.

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Wait…what? How is Okani better than Counterspell or Objection?

I disagree with the hate against Counterspell and Objection, but I get the frustration, because this cards creates a chessmate situation, when you have no way to deal with it, but let’s be honest there are more ways in HS to get to chessmate, where you can concede after that. Isn’t that a big part of card games in general?

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I mean I think it’s obvious…

A) It’s a minion, you can kill it with minions or weapons. There’s other ways to play around it.
B) It’s a one off legendary that can’t be discovered very easily.
C) It’s more expensive.

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Most of the time Okani is played on board, where you can’t really counter it, except weapons or aoe effects where it’s obviously a minion/spell.

While there are few cards like Zola and Dispossessed Soul, which is probably one of the most underrated cards, you’re right.

One more mana, except for Secretmage, who can discount it.

But again those checkmate situation it creates are an fundamental part of card games, so I don’t have a problem with it, because I don’t see a difference between those cards or bad draw. Both is frustrating, but it is a part of the strategic game.

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I mean you can also psych out the opponent into whether they picked spells or minions. And once you know which one they picked you can destroy it with the other. The difference between 3 and 4 mana is huge.

They definitely aren’t part of hearthstone. Not in the polarized way these secrets work.

If you play a minion into ambush it sucks, but it’s not just like you didn’t do anything.

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That’s the beauty of the strategic flair of the game. Isn’t that kind of complexity in a relative easy-straight forward game the reason we like HS? :thinking:

Counterspell exists as long as the game itself though, so saying it isn’t part of hearthstone feels odd to me.

But isn’t both technically a 1 to 1 trade? So why does Ambush feels more fair than CS or O? Just because the effect isn’t instant?

But that’s a misconception of your understanding, because you did something even though you played into his trap. You traded your card into his counter card.

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The entire product is broken, but do go on about how one deck is somehow more broken than another, and just murdering it will fix everything (For you, that is.).
Players like this are the reason this game will never be fixed.