Can we fix the stupid "Copy your opponents cards" cards

Without fail, these cards give you some of the best spells/creatures in your opponents deck. It’s absurd. Make it random.

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obviously you should counter them by putting the worst cards you can into your deck. Like the absolutely worst things you can scrap together, and just queue over and over again til you land on a copy priest or whatever else does that. sit back and watch them enjoy their copies of the cards that hurt more than help to have in the deck. lol.

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That’s why thief decks are never tier 1 or 2. Makes sense. :smirk:

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Some cards that are copied just can’t be played.
For example, when I play control Priest versus Shaman and I try to copy his cards and I get from him like gigantotem, inzah, alterd chord spell or that silly Magatha bom legendary those just don’t work for me.
So the best counter right now is to run Shaman class…

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no thx

is one of the most fun mechanics in the game i want more no less

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I was thinking more like cards with effects along the lines of Mortuary Machine “After your opponent plays a minion, give it Reborn.” And Generous Mummy:“Reborn Your Opponent’s cards cost (1) less.”

These types of passives that are all geared to make life easier for the opponent. That sort of idea, not necessarily these specifically, but that would be the theme of the deck.

Another timeloop would be you playing copycat and they play their copycat, and this goes on for forever. lol

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For people who enjoy being rude to others and ruining other people’s enjoyment, yes.

For people who respect others, they are not fun at all.

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liar people who rope others after spending all man every turn fit that definiton

not players based on the deck they run

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This is not allowed.

I agree with you, but nothing makes the two mutually exclusive, does it?

I disagree with you completely. The entire purpose of these decks is to irritate people.

You are literally trying to convince me that “stealing is good and fun” when that’s not true at all. Stealing is illegal, immoral, and wrong. Stealing for fun is awful.

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Cool story, NeonGhost. :clown_face:

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Sure anything you don’t like in the game is clearly disrespectful to play let’s make it so people can only play cards that are pre approved by you.

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That’s not what I said at all. It’s not even remotely relevant to the comments.

You know how when people are young and they annoy others for fun by repeating everything they say? This is the card game equivalent, and it’s just as annoying.

I don’t understand why this concept is so difficult. Slot machine games aren’t fun. If you want slots, play actual slots.

If you want constructed mode, then you need to actually construct a deck instead of discovering one.

I mean, let’s just rename the whole mode “discovered mode” to reflect truth in advertising.

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If you are going to make ludicrous comments about the mechanic being rude and disrespectful instead of just saying you don’t like it and find it irritating then you deserve to be mocked for it.

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As everyone else said, Thief decks never really have been on the top of the ladder. Only times they peaked was when Rogue got some stupid crazy tempo cards that sometimes didn’t even require stealing (which is funny). And, even then, this isn’t the main culprit of this discussion.

Priest’s steal effect has always been a gimmicky, greedy mechanic that only preys on control decks. You usually pay mana to steal those cards or play a less than ideal minion/spell to achieve that. And you know what is worse? You can steal useless cards, not necessarily unplayable, but useless considering your Win Condition.

You face aggro? Stealing an aggressive or a Win More (or proactive) card won’t help in any way. Combo? You either get useless reactive cards or combo pieces that don’t do anything alone. Happens, but very rarely, to play their own combo against them. So where does this work? Against decks that play both reactive and proactive cards, which are Control decks. There you can use their cards against them and punish them for being too slow to counter your tempo loss.

I can understand complaining about this mechanic if it was a viable way to climb. But… it’s not. People who play these decks play them for fun moments where they hit, which is rare. Not to mention that meta always favoured faster decks over slower, more controlly decks…

First, no one “deserves” to be mocked. The fact that you think people deserve to be treated poorly while defending these decks reinforces how correct my assessment is - you think others are deserving of bad treatment. That’s awful. It’s really sad.

What is camping a corpse in games like wow? Is that totally fine use of game mechanics or is it rude and disrespectful? It’s as though you gloss over the fact that people do things with ill intent for selfish and immature reasons in gaming, but then it’s okay if it’s something you personally like.

I don’t care if you think being mean is fun, it’s not okay to grief people in games, and thief decks are bad manners.

Make your own deck.

Fun moments?

If that’s what they call fun they need professional assistance.

Because the “fun” from these moments is: “Man, that’s hilarious! I sure ruined that guys whole day with that luck!AHAHAHAHA”

First if you are going to make comments like this and then claim to be against mocking people that’s awful it’s really sad.

The copy mechanic in Hearthstone is neither mean or griefing nor rude or disrespectful.

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If those moments ruin your day, I don’t know who needs more assistance. No offence dude, but if just a game gets people that bad, then maybe they need to take a pause and think about other games/activities.

Besides, people play games for their own selves to have fun first, then the others. I don’t play to make the other players feel better and I bet most people don’t. Those who play Thief decks simply have fun playing those decks.

However, if you consider that you do prioritise other people’s fun, then simply think those moments this way: my opponent had fun hitting the nuts.

In the end, you do you. Fun is something subjective and, if a game doesn’t fit your criteria of fun, then maybe it’s not a game made for you.

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It’s a perfectly fine mechanic until the developers overstep and give the same decks ways to easily beat aggro. That’s when you run into things like a Barrens meta and we don’t really want to go down that road again.

If you are playing a greedy or combo deck this is the kind of deck that is a solid counter and is an alternative to just playing aggro.

Using empirical evidence to test the validity of your beliefs? Stop making so much sense. You’re supposed to just stick to pure theory and throw a fit like an infant when you don’t get your way.

You wouldn’t know what people who respect others enjoy. The concept is alien to you.

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They have fun because they know it’s rude. That’s it.

Again, if that is fun for you I feel bad for you.

That’s horrible.

When people aren’t selfish jerks, they realize that fair play and sportsmanship is important. Intentionally griefing people is neither.

Sure, this is true. But there are limits to fun and there should be limits to fun.

I don’t think you want to look at the empirical evidence here because my almost 30 years of happy marriage, strong interpersonal relationships, and professional success would not help your case.

I honestly think you’re the one lacking in this regard.

They certainly don’t ruin my day. I just leave the game and do something interesting with my time. I’m saying the people who play those decks do it to be annoying because they think griefing people is fun.

The comment is not mocking, it’s genuine and sincere. If you like to annoy people in video games, you need help outside of the game.

I firmly disagree.

You have an opinion based on your preferences, which are apparently to grief and be rude if your posts are any indication.