Can everyone just shut up about Tickatus?

“It beat my mega greed deck cause it burned the mega greedy stuff I was running. This card is so broken even thought the card is garbage against most meta decks and only really counters greedy decks like the one I played, control decks or combo decks. People who use Tickatus are the devil incarnate pls nerf Blizz.”
And that is basically a smoothie of what half the forum is at this point. It has 0 impact on the board when its played, most combo decks will have their combo in hand or all the must have cards for it by turn 7 anyways, turn 7 Corrupt Tickatus isn’t even guarenteed, is useless against aggro, can burn “your entire deck” only in wild unless you get hella lucky. This card is literally niche tech incarnate but just cause it is good against that niche thing or “annoying” people complain about it. Let me tell you a little something. I play a lot of greedy decks, control decks or combo decks decks and Tickatus has never annoyed me. It is one of the coolest cards in the game imo actually. And Im playing in wild where tickatus burning 30 or more cards is entirely possible without any rng. It is annoying but so is Face decks, almost every single death knight card, otk’s and a bunch of stuff that are balanced, maybe even under-powered but just annoying to fight. Thank god we don’t balance the game according to this hell pit or Priest, Hunter and Demon Hunter would be the worst classes ever and aggro would be non-existent with every card that punishes greed getting nerfed into the ground.

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Can you shut up anout Tickatus not being a problem. The problem is not that it has a high winrate or that it is meta dominant but it feels absolutly abysmall to play against. This card has the effect of 5 gnomeferatus and is much easier to acchive than Azari, imagine you want to play a C’thun deck, well thats basically impossible against warlock as long as you play any class that isnt warlock. Combining their stupid removal + their soul fragments shenanigans they are the only deck that can be build greedy and get away with it. That is why people complain. I e.g. only have rouge cards and prefer value over agro but i can just concede against any warlock since it is pointless even to try, yet if i adapt to the meta and play a aggro deck people complain that rouge is to strong and only goes face. Blizzard should actually balance their game for once and adapt tickatus so that it is less frustrating to play against.

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That’s a good player against bad player fight.

Good players know how to play against control warlock. Bad players don’t. So one gets frustrated and the other laughs at the card.

Since bad players are way more numerous than good players, I guess you’ll see people complaining about the card forever.

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You can do what I do when someone makes a post as bereft of merits as yours, and block them.

Assuming you are not just playing hyper aggro, how does one play against Control Warlock? Only out of curiosity from your perspective here.

Can everyone just shut up about Tickatus?

It would appear not.

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Yes. Topics pointing to Tickatus not being very good are just as unhelpful or counterproductive as the ones calling him OP.

It seems to me that people feel this need to be oppositional to players claiming Tickatus is OP and so decide to believe in the complete opposite and that is that Tickatus is in fact a very bad card. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The card isn’t the best but it’s certainly not the worst, either. Moreover, this idea that any control deck can suddenly become an aggressive deck isn’t always true. Sure, it can be pulled off, sometimes, when necessary. But, it isn’t always possible.

There are legitimate ways to beat Tickatus, and Tickatus is legitimately powerful against many control type decks. And so if you are fearful of Tickatus, you may want to play a different type of deck than the slow and greedy type you might be playing now. As the advice is usually given, you can also try playing more aggressively, if your deck and draw allow for it. Good luck.

I learnt how to mulligan against warlock with a combo deck months ago.
And with a control deck, I know how to pressure my opponent so he doesn’t have tempo to play tickatus.

Especially since they need to make bad plays in order to set up their corruption so they basically tell you “heeeey dude, i’m going to play tickatus next turn !”. So I just set up board that disallows my opponents to spend 6 mana on a minion that does nothing on the board, again and again, and if he does, I smash his head until he dies.

But you will tell me “b-but I play control deck, so I can’t pressure my opponent” and I will answer you : no, you’re not playing a control deck, you’re playing a bad deck or you’re playing in a passive manner. => so you don’t know how to think about a gameplan in a specific match up => so you’re a bad player => so you accept to be frustrated by a bad card.

It’s as simple as it is.

And somethimes you won’t have a good enough set up and your opponent will have everything to mill 15 cards without you being able to do anything about it : that’s life : concede, go next.
Being able to lose without losing your crap every time it happens is also something good player do.

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I don’t think somoene getting frustrated by a card is necessarily a sign that they are a bad player, some cards and even classes just feel bad in general to play against. It is what it is at the end of the day though.

But then I do agree that these cards and classes aren’t generally “op” as some will claim and that they should instead learn how to play around them or beat them, regardless of what class or deck type they are playing.

But yes, I do agree that Control Decks can put enough pressure on Control Warlock to win games, and sometimes they can’t. That’s honestly fine, just keep a cool head and go again. But I will reafirm that certain cards are just designed to be frustrating by nature, and Tickatus is one of them cards regardless of how hard it is to make work.

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My c’thun warlock is usally helped when they tic me, means I can OTK them a few turns later.
Sometimes a piece gets burned, but thats part of the game.

I dare not think how many priest decks there would be if tic was not around.

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Good players loses to tickatus too often if they are running control decks.

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Recently I saw Firebat running a super greedy quest Warlock. It didn’t have Tickatus and it was bad. He knew it was bad. He had a game against Priest after losing a bunch of games. He won that game against Priest. Long story short. Greedy do nothing Priest loses to other greedy decks it doesn’t have to be Tickatus that does it. You play super passive and you just lose a lot. Wait and See playstyle just doesn’t work well in Hearthstone and its not because of Tickatus. Wait and See in Hearthstne is often Wait and See your face explode into a crater.

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I don’t have a problem with Tickatus.

But this argument that it only punishes greedy or control decks is nonsence. If you’re implying that to beat Tickatus you just have to race face, well thats forcing an architype, when in reality if someone wants to play control, or OTK they should be able to .

Control warlock is greedy too - usually nothing but removal all game until their power turn where they throw up one gigantic board in one turn.

That being said, like I say I don’t have a problem with tickatus - when I lose control warlock and Tickatus hurt (happened a handful of times only), it’s usually because I’ve drawn like garbage and it burns my useful cards in my Whirlkick Rogue deck and im stuck with a handful of preps and backstabs

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But netdeckers and aggro…

lol

You are correct. Waiting and seeing is death.

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CAN EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP ABOUT TICKATUS?
lol

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But Tickitus is just a big “F U” to an archetype that already struggles to maintain a positive win rate, so, it is overkill.

“punishes big slow greedy decks” but everything else already does! It’s already punishing to try and play ranked with a Tonk hunter, Duel Paladin, Ripper warrior etc. Tickitus doesn’t need to exist as a troll tech to an already abused deck type, especially when warlock always seems to have an effective Zoo deck as a counter to slow decks anyway.

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unfortunately, we can’t

Have you considered that much of the player base finds that playstyle cancerous and believes it should be punished out of existence?

Not for its relative power, but for the fact that actually playing no win condition organic mill death stall decks is BM.

I mean, by printing tickatus it would seem the devs in part agree that they don’t want that in the game.

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I don’t consider the examples i gave to be of that type - but if they got hit by tickitus they’d be F’d just the same. They rely on there being cards in the deck. It’s not a matter of “cards you were never going to draw” as so many make that argument.

Also, it isn’t priest’s fault that their game plan revolves around stalling then pulling copies of stuff from deck. THat’s how standard priest is designed…

And what if the card is designed to be frustrating to play against?

As long as it isn’t making too many people quit of the game it is actually fine.

Hearthstone is a game about WOW momments and the same thing that makes one person frustrated on one side is what makes another person happy and satisfied on the other.
This is how a card game like hearthstone is designed.

Control players love when they literally remove everything until a fast deck not have what to play anymore don’t they?

Yet people who use fast decks not come here yelling that control shouldn’t exist just because their decks are slightly unfavored against.
Tickatus warlock is literally so bad that even what it supposed to be good at doing isn’t actually that easy to do against good players with good slow decks.

So as long as it doesn’t get too popular to the point of affect too many people it’s fine.

It’s fine to have one or two not so fun matches if that means you’re making more people able to actually have fun.

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