There is some speculation that Control Hunter maybe viable in next expansion.
What do you think?
Do you welcome this archetype?
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The card that changes your hero power makes it seem like it could be viable. Discover a card from your deck for one mana every turn would be the strongest base hero power in the game, and hunter is getting a lot of discover support
I think hunters will find a working combo deck before they find a full control deck. The combo would likely come faster than any late control win con, and uses most of the same tools to stall/draw.
What I hope there wouldnât be is a strong âjankâ deck, where hunter might just explode a win if they happen to god curve. Egg/big beast hunter leans to that category, but itâs not the most consistent right now so itâs not meta nor is it making people cry on the forums when it does work.
I mean hunter doesnt have very good defensive spells or much healing⌠star power⌠hound⌠deathroll costs way too much mana, furious howl also costs too much mana. The warrior tourist cards arent very good either.
Nothing in the expansion seems to add anything for control⌠The only current thing is a reno shell and reno wouldnt get a whole lot added in the new expansion.
Theyâd need a few defensive spell buffs (deathroll/fowls getting a mana or two shaved off)
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Indeed. When coming against say a control warrior and priest build, a âcontrolâ hunter does not seems encouraging
The HP replacement card is not a bad card in Egg hunter considering it got a solid minion to support the DR package. Finding key cards asap would go a long way to consistency.
Saying âcontrol Hunterâ out loud makes me want to bleach my tongue
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I donât remember what rotation it was but a Control Hunter did exist on ladder for a time. I think it was when Rexxar Hero was in and you just kept making Zombeasts to dominate the board.
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Nope never. Itâs impossible for Hunter to make a control deck because just having the 2 damage to face Hero Power automatically makes any Hunter deck aggro.
It was the closest thing to Control Hunter. But in todayâs Standard contextâŚ
Nah thatâs not even close to what a control deck does. Rexxar DK Hero Power makes minions and using minions is aggro.
Itâs gonna be a midrange hunter not control. So it either be egg hunter with the new cards or it will be some starship hunter if it will be good enough
Ah, I donât think thatâs how it works xDD
I mean, even control decks have to close games somehow
Yeah, you can support your hero power with minions and spells and go SMORC, for sure
But you can also just use your spells and minions to defend and keep hitting that hero power, thus putting the enemy on a timer and under pressure to act
Itâs the definition of a control deck. Hunter CAN be a control deck, and probably will some time in the future.
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WOOSH, straight over your head.
Problem with control hunter is lack of really good late game like druids or warriors. So imo itâs gonna be more midrange tempo hunter with some control elements sprinkled in for defense in faster mu.
The discover package really could be usable in egg hunter. Whether the starship hunter will. E playable or not it remains to be seen.
I think the closest thing we ever came to a control hunter was back when deathstalker rexxar was a card. Even then it was mostly due to consistant lifesteal off zombeasts.
I disagree, I think Egg hunter is more of a control deck
It has everything to stall, even his charge minions which are meant to be a finisher of some kind, have removal (vanish) and it can heal from 1 to 30 with one card (which can also OTK you with some luck and preparation)
Itâs actually really easy to factcheck whether any deck is or isnât more of a control deck, with hard data from HSGuru. All you need to do is go to the Card Stats for the deck and see if the average drawn winrate is more than +0, or less. The baseline for that plus or minus is the deckâs overall winrate, so if the average is above 0 that means that the more cards the deck draws (generally speaking, the longer the game goes), the more likely the deck is to win. And the definition of being the control deck in any matchup is that you are more confident in your victory the longer the game lasts.
Egg Hunter is more of a control deck. Itâs very comfortable with long games.
https://www.hsguru.com/card-stats?archetype=Mystery+Egg+Hunter&rank=top_10k&sort_by=drawn_impact&sort_direction=desc
Big Spell Mage is NOT a control deck, regardless of if it embraces Orb or not. It wants to win early. (This is why I donât dig the versions that lean into control elements.)
https://www.hsguru.com/card-stats?archetype=Big+Spell+Mage&rank=top_10k&sort_by=drawn_impact&sort_direction=desc
https://www.hsguru.com/card-stats?archetype=Orb+Big+Spell+Mage&sort_by=drawn_impact&sort_direction=desc
Please note that me stating my dislike of the concept of a control Hunter does not mean that I consider such a thing to be non-existent (merely an abomination lol). I acknowledge my bias so that I can better avoid it during analysis.
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Speed isnât proving controllness, itâs just very likely to be slow if youâre also control.
Ramp druid is relatively slow and itâs un-controlling (it just explodes in value late).
I actually agree with you, for a change.
Speed (alone) is irrelevant when determining a decks archetype, period.
PLAYSTYLE is what determines a decks archetype and, in that regard, Egg Hunter is a combo deck.
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