I have no words for this …
How is this getting worse by the day .
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It still doesn’t mean they are guilty if it was their response to the false allegations that appeared to be a joke at that time, doesn’t prove they are molesters. People interpret it out of context.
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Ya, a suit where young girls of the company can come drink and mingle with high end staff to discuss “career advancement” with posts talking about the lead designer banging all the girls in a room called the Cosby sweet, followed by a sea of former developers apologizing they never did anything about it right after the state of California reveals its 2 year investigation charges. Ya let’s not jump to conclusions.
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Haha, those pictures are hilarious. I was tempted to apply for a job at Blizzard when I was younger but I decided not to do software engineering and went down a different path. Really wish I applied now.
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Asmon summed it up brilliantly, “it’s like someone accused of terrorism having his favorite band Isis”, great band btw. And screenshots can be easily photoshopped in the era of “deep fakes”, people must be extremely cautious in what they believe. For example, there is footage of GTA that looks like real life generated by the AI:
So making fake screenshots like that would take, an amateur like 5 minutes top, hell even I can make them.
Don’t forget we talk about Blizzard’s 65 billion company, there are many sharks that are eager to bite a chunk of that money, so all the accusations should be taken with extreme caution, doesn’t matter how realistic they seem to be.
Isis, great band:
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There’s personal accounts, screenshots, and pictures that all corroborate each other. It’s pretty hard not to believe that Blizzard has had and still has some serious workplace issues.
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So you are saying that someone inside their company doesn’t know their personal icons to photoshop them? Competitors could infiltrate the company, plant spies, and sabotage it from the inside. They could manipulate the indications to put Blizzard in a bad light. Give me one chance to pm with any of their staff and with acquired reference will be able to photoshop it.
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Let’s not jump to conclusions or believe allegations with enormous piles of evidence from large quantities of people who were there…
But crazy corporate espionage conspiracies, those are fine apparently.
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You call it “crazy”, because you don’t have idea how much is 65 billion apparently. I guess for people like you is not worth to pay 5 usd for photoshop hoax.
“Who were there” and it might be their revenge, for personal reasons to give company a bad name, considering how many workers Blizzard had over the years, the bad feedback as well was generated. If game on Steam has 20k positive reviews and 1k biased negative, does it prove that game is bad?
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You think hundreds of their employees are literally spies planted by competitors? That the two year lawsuit from California is built entirely on lies? That every image and piece of damning evidence was faked?
This is approaching faked moon landing levels of stupidity. I never realized how hard people would go to gaslight and defend such heinous actions but the hearthstone forums are apparently infested with you lunatics.
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You do realize that the positive reviews are much more likely to be the fake ones, right?
It only depends on how many per cent are these hundreds, of total employees that have ever been in that company.
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Then why bad games have more negative reviews?
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What Blizzard needs now is the league of worker women, that will disapprove all these allegations. And I’m pretty sure the majority of them never experienced any discrimination but they still can be manipulated with a fake sense of “solidarity”. They are just afraid to spoke out to don’t be lynched by the angry mob for being “shills”.
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Why would you sabotage your own company’s image for a “fake sense of solidarity”? All the employees stepping out in solidarity is a bad image for the lawsuit. It’s not a great image for customers who care about these issues. It would be shooting yourself in the foot; affecting both your company’s ability to win its lawsuit and losing paying customers.
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Now you say I’m crazy but if I told you before that Blizzard employees are drinking booze and chanting to portrait of Bill Cosby, would you believe that? Everything is possible and people change their minds quickly.
A chain reaction of emotional people.
I mean, the women that would normally speak in Blizzard’s defense, are emotionally driven by current circumstances to his disadvantage become an accomplice with the “alleged” victims.
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If the entire staff decided to step out in a big virtue signaling charade, the company deserves any negative press it gets. Either way, it made me rethink spending money on Hearthstone.
Disclaimer: this post is just to comment on the question in general, not on the current allegations against Bliz
In general, yes. But I’m not so sure for gaming industry specifically, and this may also extend to movies, tv, and other pop culture entertainment things.
In the last decade or so (boy time sure flew fast) if not longer there’s been… at least a movement of skepticism towards the media. Part of it may be legit, but another part is that there is a conflict between old and new media, between big long time corporations and new independent content creators. There’s more choice in who you listen to for your news and reviews. This competition in turn should make every competitor a little more honest.
Fake too much, and people will you out. You a big corporation? Clearly you hyping and just doing PR/damage control. You a small indie? Have you sold out? You a shill now for [insert whoever]?
What is the opinion of Hearthstone staff on the situation, is Liv Breeden being discriminated against by her male co-workers? I don’t think so. If anything Hearthstone staff is most tolerant of the Blizzard branch. So you should be safe to support it.
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I get that it’s awful and everything but this was from like over a decade ago?
CONTEXT MATTERS and people can CHANGE.
If I’m not mistaken the name was in reference to tacky sweaters and this was before Bill Cosby was convicted of his crimes.
Now I’m not saying that the screenshots are remotely excusable but at the same time… this seems like a far reach into the past.
Not sure how effective this is in promoting a cause.
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