Blizzard and Hearthstone shutting down in China

That is not what I’m doing. If I say “a certain volume of water flows down the river every minute,” that doesn’t mean that I’m counting the liters. But just because we’re not counting it, doesn’t mean that volume doesn’t exist.

Guess it’s inline with replacing female portraits with bowls of fruit in WoW, but that was because of their sex scandals right ?
Virtue signaling ftw

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If you are aware of the volume, you are measuring it.
I don’t do that with kind acts.

Saying that something is free is measuring the cost. So no, you do do that with kind acts.

I don’t consider that either. I just help where and when I can.
I just finished two years as a Library book mender.
But now that I’m back in a Blue state, I am helping all the children on the streets as I can with food and blankets.
Most of them came from towns in other places, not unlike the one I was raised in, where you either conform or you get cast out.
Feral Wolves could do a better job of parenting than most of these kids Mom’s and Dads.

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I am not keen to wade too deeply into this rapidly filling cesspool of a conversation that has become this thread, but I think the fact that you use the common buzzwords with such facility belies, I suspect, your intent from your statement.

We as a species tell stories and from the stories we take shared lessons and values.

One of the strongest tactics operating in USA political discourse is to poison other people’s stories by stealing and coopting their language and traditions.

This whole notion that “woke” or “social justice” or “virtue” have become insults or put downs is a symptom of a broader disintegration of the cultural narrative.

While I am certainly of no mind to write some treatise on the topic or lecture anyone on their words, it should be clear to intelligent individuals that words matter, that they have both a connotative and a denotative meaning.

In the case of your words, if you do not want to be considered partisan you may consider not using words and phrases that are decidedly partisan to the point that they are now battlecries and shared affirmation of tribal membership.

Again, I do not think this is your intent, but you cannot separate the cultural connotations from the denotative use of the language.

I will show myself out now and let you all get back to slinging muck and what not around your place.

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Regarding “woke” and “social justice”: It’s true that the right uses these derisively, but it’s important to note that those were originally terms of the left. Like, the words republican (little r) and democratic (little d) mean something conceptually different from Republican and Democratic. So the question here is: does one keep the name of those one disagrees with, or do they rename them? I think the more respectful thing is to call them as they call themselves as you disagree with their ideas.

Regarding “virtue”: the term you’re thinking of is “virtue signaling,” which is not virtue. Virtue is being good; virtue signaling is pointing to yourself and boasting how good you are. The implication is that the actual virtue isn’t there. The thing is that Democrats criticize Republicans for virtue signaling too, they are just not inclined to label it with the same term — for example, mocking second amendment supporters for their “thoughts and prayers” after a mass shooting when those same people have no plan for any policy changes to make such shootings less common. Virtue signaling in practice is actually a lot less partisan than virtue signaling as a term.

If the right is right about something, I don’t have a problem standing with them. I definitely think they’re more right than the left on most, but not all, economic issues — for example, the Laffer Curve is a real thing. Does this mean I agree with them regarding voting rights, medicare for all, or immigration policy? No. But there’s a reason I used the terms I did in that post, and it’s because those terms are correct.

For someone who is often right about things, you do an excellent job of utterly ruining any good will or interest with your follow ups.

You’ve very much missed my point and devolved into a defense of some proverbial tribe(s), which was neither my intent nor my content.

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On paper they are competitors. But in China, all companies are more or less owned by the government. Contrary to what many idiots believe, there is no private ownership in China. EVERYTHING is owned by the state

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In any case, I’m real happy this happened. These greedy corporations are disgusting hypocrites that kowtows to China. I’ll never forgive Blizzard for censoring Blitzchung and firing those 2 taiwanese commentators.

While at the same time Blizzard went around with their virtue-signalling. We shouldn’t have anything to do with China, especially now that their emperor for life is turning it into Western North Korea with Orwellian censorship

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I think they are a pack of phony hypocrites who have done their very best to stack the judiciary with rubber stamp cronies. They literally retook the House only because gerrymandering was allowed in red states and denied in NY. and elsewhere. And lesser Federal Courts were overturned in three States over racist Voting Rights Act violations.
Anyone who doesn’t know that over 70% of the Right Wing is Federalist Society aligned isn’t very educated.
Were it my call, SPLC would have classified the organization as White Supremacist years ago.

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Seems like a situation where they aren’t willing to deal with the problems for that much cash.

If you think this is anything other than a cold, calculated business decision by blizzard you do not understand business.

They need profits for their efforts, and it seems like that number is really, really small for how much trouble it is, both in time and publicity, to do business there.

Pretty sure China was their main source of income at this point. i wonder if Microsoft is still gonna go through with the deal.

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When I saw the DK card releases, I knew Blizzard was desperate. Now this explains a lot.

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I hate that actually taking a moment to express sympathy has become politicized, because it’s just another form of emotional blackmail: “do what we say, or you have no compassion.” Considering those same people use “thoughts and prayers” with zero backlash, it’s hypocrisy of the highest order.

Sometimes, all’s you can do is tell someone you’re thinking of them. It’s better than ignoring it entirely.

No, it’s basic resource talk. Regular people talked this way, before literally everything, including rbeathing, became political.

If you’re going to tell everyone you’ve never considered a time factor in ANYTHING, I’m going to award that answer five Pinocchios.

There’s a difference between acknowledging time cost factors and balancing one’s time (ie, work/life balance and so on) and what you’re describing.

Not every American does this; I’ve met some who realize this kind of black/white thinking, especially when it comes to self serving politicians is self destructive. One can find it anywhere: in the uk; it’s labor/tories; italy has fdl/pd-idp and so on.

Yes, along with a bunch of other cards. They’ll claim otherwise, but do a search for games , censored for “that” market and you’ll see how many bowed the knee to one of the worst human rights abusers out there.

QFT and AMEN!

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I see money grubbing.
It’s not exactly charity if you are accounting for every second or dime of it.
One might conclude that you resent giving it, since you account for it so precisely.
ie: If you are only giving to charities for the tax benefits, then it rather negates the whole idea of selflessness.
ie: “I gave you X, so now you owe me Y” That’s not charity, and it is anything but a selfless act.

Again, that’s not what’s being discussed.

Let’s say the day you volunteered, you had a doctor’s appointment, had work, agreed to meet someone afterwards, or any other activity that required…allocating or in layman’s terms keeping track of your time.

That’s not “watching every minute” that’s properly managing your schedule. Unless you literally only do one activity a day.

I’m just saying that folks who believe that giving their time is taking away from their profit margins aren’t people I want to associate with.
Life is short, and I wasted far too much time in my twenties on people like that.

I’m not surprised. NetEase and Blizzard haven’t really been on the best of terms since the Blitzchung debacle. And from the perspective of Hearthstone specifically, I suspected something would happen because a major undead focused campaign would have big troubles with Chinese regulators. They wouldn’t be able to just work around the issues with different artwork, given things like the corpse counter. And that’s not even factoring in the current crackdown China is doing to games across the board.

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Ohhh the irony!

Now to make everything perfect I hope the DK launch will partially flop so they consider making packs better or giving us way more gold

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