there is a tier 4 elemental named upbeat upstart. when you gold it, it will make its own health double the highest health minion on the board every 2 turns. it will double its own health if it is the highest. if you have any sizable minion on board for it copy, it will scale continuously.
rylek is a tier 4 beast with taunt, that says “when this dies trigger the deathrattles of adjacent minions” so you use this between the tier 3 quillboars that have the battlecry increases blood gems health. then you can use things like baron, brann, certain quests, etc. to scale it all.
I honestly haven’t gotten, nor seen, any decent elemental builds at all, outside of golden upbeat upstart. Any time elementals are in the tavern I actively avoid them.
The easiest way to scale really fast is with Patient Scout. If you buy that on turn 3-4 and get a good 6 tier when you sell it, you’ll hit those numbers. Corpse Refiner abuse with deathrattles is also pretty good (you can get a lot of value on Corpse refiner so you can upgrade to tavern 5,6 at the same time or just tavern 5 and a lot of value).
There’s also a channel called Sasuke Sama on youtube who only shows crazy BG games. You can watch some of those if you want more help.
I just had an amazing match playing as the hero that starts off with a quest. I scored the one that spins the wheel of yogg every start of turn, and the next quest rewarded the wonderball thingy that gives crazy refreshes once in a while. Cannot begin to tell you how amazing a combo those two are. Not only did I get crazy stats rearranged, darkmoon faire prizes, and at least 10 or 12 rounds of giving the tavern +3/+3 for the rest of the game, (lol), but as Demons I encountered so many new ones I;ve never seen before. No idea the name of them, but there is one I have NEVER seen buyable in the tavern that gives all other demons stats when i take damage, not the battlecry one thats super rare from like tier 2 or 3, but this one is a higher tier and has dragon portrait around it, so elite rare lol. Now I normally can find the guy that refreshes the tavern with my health in most games, but the other rare demon even tho it isn;t a high tier one is the one that undoes self inflicted damage. Thank you wonderball! Gave me a refresh that yielded 3 of them on the same tavern refresh lol! That super rare elite I was talking about ended up reaching 512/531 by the end of the match, and I had a couple taunters that were even bigger since I had them longer but by the end my opponent had a tier 1 demon in the 1k+/1k+ territory but the rest much lower than most of my warband. So naturally I sought out the bug and Leeroys and I etched out a 1st place in this match.
But yeah, I never knew this demon ever existed, the passive scaler after I take self inflicted damage. No clue what its called, it has whatever Mal’Ganis is, a Dreadlord? on it. I just wish it and the damage undoer weren’t so rare to encounter. Had I not picked the wonderball quest I doubt I’d be having this post go this direction right now lol. Honestly there should be more than 1 scaler and 1 damage undoer given there are SO MANY self inflicting damagers in the tribe. No idea how long this minion has been around but it was only due to wonderball I was ever offered it.
https://imgur.com/gallery/hckL8kb
Is there a minion thats never offered to me that is apparently common knowledge to all you’s guys for elementals like there was for Demons?
I, too, have found this guy somewhat absent when I’m actually searching for it, but it is pretty strong. Decent stats to start and will light up the tavern with good stated ele’s in no time, especially if you can get two and/or acquire a Quest/Unit to utilize its DR more than once.
Just remember, as I’ve seen this happen in some of my lobbies, try not to buff that guy; you want it to die. If you’re going to buff it, try to give it taunt to have a higher chance at popping off despite larger stats(health).
When we talk about understanding the cards, this is an amazing example. To the inexperienced player, when they saw all these cards in the shop it looks like unrelated junk… but to the true artist, it’s game winning.
They got lucky on the 50/50 at the very end choosing the baron instead of the big minion, but what a coooool build this is. It’s also something very few players here would even conceive much less recognize and run with.
I came back tonight specifically to share this one with you. I likely won’t log in for a long time, so good luck!
For the crazy elemental scaling they tend to have rylak with reborn, The minion that triggers deathratles on attack. then bran and the double deathratlles on reborn.
But you need a fair bit of luck because you have 5 minions towards making your elementals scale and only 1 is an elemental and It tends to scale slow at the start.
So non golden felemental and rylak 1 per turn.
2 felemantals and rylak 2 per turn
all 3 golden 6 per turn.
reborn rylak 12 per turn
reborn parrot?? x2
golden brann x2
golden deathrattle x4
so most off the above +50 to stats per turn
then they switch to elementals when its 1v1.
oh and this week people are not playing bg they are playing titans, I have climbed over 6500 on the back of that, mostly on 2nds to crazy scaling builds.
Im loling in real life at the idea of multiple golden minions on the board. I almost never encounter enough to make more than 1 recently. I have yet to see Brann ever offered since they added in all these new minions. I might find a enough for a tier 1 or 2 to eventually become golden but never anything higher. I encounter 1 minion for a build Im going for and if I pass it up I wont ever see another the rest the game. Ever. Its really been bumming me out how I see all golden boards and I havent made a single one yet.
Im not following what is happening in that image, what do those quillboar do and why are they around the taunter? how do they scale the dragons? I dont recognize the quillboar at all. and reading the thread doesnt really explain much but gives more questions. Why wouldnt the dragons retain the stats from the combat phase? its the only thing that dragon does lol.
TLDR: you need to be on Tier 4 by 9 gold latest, unless you have broken quest (end of turn double with felbat or fort, for example). Most of the key pieces are at T4+ to scale, so you need to get there ASAP to actually scale.
To give you understanding - until you are at T4, you dont really build strategy, unless you are extremely lucky. You build sustain, which will allow you to level and find key pieces. I treat everything I buy until T4 as something I will probably get rid of in later stages, so I dont invest into buffs, unless there is no better option. Several times I sold Snapjaw at turn 7-8 with 30+health, because I had better things to do.
For example if I get buff effect quils, I will not still play them into lategame without Rylak. Direction is given mostly by T4+minions you discover/find. Hence getting there by 8-9 gold.
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/battlegrounds?
If you dont know names of heroes/minions people mention, look here. If you are asking for advice, you need to just do your search as well, not just rely for people to give you everything. If you dont know who Teron is, just find it here. Or use a thing called “google”.
Check battleground minions and think about what makes tribe scale.
Learn curves - if you are not on 9 gold on T4, you are doing it wrong. Basically all T1-T3 minions are complemental pieces, without T4+ you cant build engame. Google “battlegrounds curves”.
To give you example:
You cant really scale Nagas without Zesty+Deep blue (OR/AND Thalissa). Which means getting T4.
You cant do proper Murlocs without Bassgil and Bream (or old school Bran+battlecries combo).
Beasts without Banana (and Mama).
Pirates without T5/T6 eco minions.
Elementals are hot mess, they have 3-4 strategies, but the only viable to go for 100s are based on T5-T6 cards (or specific heroes). Without specific heroes it is Gusty/Admiral + end of turn (Magma/upstart) or Rockrock+Gusty. Otherwise you are simply not winning.
Whoah that is a lot. I read it all at least 3 times but Im still having trouble keeping up with the shorthand of the names and such even with another tab open searching for each one. So what Im gathering is just dont bother with tier 1-3 at all and skip to 4 every turn? Because I do see a couple times a week someone doing that and it isnt because they are AFK or the Thanos looking dude. I wonder why they made all the scaling minions such high tier to force a race to those high tiers. I remember it wasnt long ago I could stay the entire game on tier 3 and take 1st place with either murlocs or elementals or beasts. Nowadays battlecry minions are so rare I dont even bother trying to play as Brann. I can never get my Brann! lol. Im dead by the time I found enough battlecry minions at all since the game started.
I hate people that are so flippant to say this. Do you think I havent used google to try and find answers to my own questions? But I dont get much of an answer from “who is the undead lady in hearthstone bgs?” and get a very accurate answer or even anything at all resembling what Im trying to find out. I ask google lots of things about the game I dont know the answer to. Without knowledge of their names already, its not as helpful as you might think it is. And looking thru the Yellow Pages length of ALL the BGS cast members isnt something I’m willing to do for every minion Im curious about/dont know the name of/ never seen before/ dont know what it does long after the ability to hover for a tooltip is well long and gone.
there are more than 1? You might be talking too advanced of gameplay now. I already made the mistake of allowing myself to reach 6k mmr this time around so all my fun games and normal length games are no longer an option anymore. Currently at a decent 6099 for the season tho so its not all bad. I just wish there were more ladder rungs to the mmr floors and ceilings to not pit me in a lobby with potentially 7k+ to whatever the limit is. 10k? idk.
I gave you names of minions, who do the scaling for several tribes, explained you quite a bit and you are complaining and failing to do basic research. I even told you where to find what which minion does. Your ignorance and failure to actually search for them is not my issue.
Instead of thanking for help you call me flippant. I wanted to explain more, but this is it from me, no need to deal with troll who does not appreciate help.
None of that would answer my question of why doesnt Teracgosa keep the blood gems of combat after combat is over as that is what Teracgosa does, it keep all battle enhancements. I;ve never encountered a blood gem that says “until next turn” printed on it so it isnt a spellcraft type enhancement but even if it was, its a battle phase gained one so it would still retain it. So looking up the minions I dont recognize wont resolve that issue Im asking about. There isnt anything that Teracgosa can GAIN in combat that it shouldnt be keeping at the end of combat into the next turn. my question was that. Seems to be an obvious flaw/bug if that is occurring.
It isnt trolling to point out your attitude despite your aid. Its calling out your backhanded help. I do appreciate all the pointers, but you ignore my experiences and resort to name calling and accusations of me posting in bad faith. The resources you provided are of great help Im sure, from a research perspective. However in a conversational exchange, which is what a forum is, ignoring that I am unable to keep up with all the namedrops and telling me to google it or go do all the research and then come back is just, well, flippant. Im not going to go look up each every card i cant recognize from a post just to appease you. I wouldnt expect anyone here to go read every book I reference or watch every film I quote or catch every pokemon I refer to. Why would you expect me to go look up every card I dont know by heart for your posts? I dont like to think low of people but if that is your idea of where the bar is for you, then Im sorry but I do think that is low to have such entitlement that others do what you expect of them in regards to every word you type. No one owes you anything. No one is required or expected to do anything based on your every typed word. I;m asking questions, you are admittedly, answering them. Your attitude and entitlement, however, wasnt necessary.
I try to be humble when surrounded by people that punch down when I toot on my own horn to say my achievement of Silver 6 as a long time High Score. I know Im not great nor incompetent, but I wish some would just answer my questions instead of giving me homework, ya know? Like aside from hero powers and quests that obviously influence it greatly, how can anyone with any hero or quest, seemingly scale to the 100s?
I guess the premise should be stated as "Assume you have no hero power, no quests: which Minions allow (Insert tribe name here, ex: Elementals) to scale to 100+/100+ by tier 4 on turn 10? If none exist, Tier 5 Turn 10?
