Baldur's Gate 3 is the new standard

Baldur’s Gate 3.

-no DLC
-no microtransactions
-no loot boxes

Hundreds of hours of gameplay. Currently 94% on Metacritic. Best selling game on GoG and Steam. Probably GOTY.

I never want to hear the excuse that Blizzard needs microtransactions and loot boxes to fund their games. Ever.

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B-b-but bg3 is such an anamoly please don’t hold poor blizzard to these standards!

But yeah easily goty imo and might even
Be the game since the witcher 3!

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So far, it’s 10x better than I expected. Easy GotY.

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what type of card game is it ? mtg clone (like eternal card game)or HS clone (like shadoverse)

Not a card game. RPG game. It’s probably the pinnacle of all RPG games ever.

I obviously don’t think Blizzard can be held to the same standard because they’ll never meet it. Plus, hs is a card game :sweat_smile:

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oh nothing special then most rpg dont have lootboxes

cosmetic only DLC are something you can find but not a big deal is just cosmetics and not story dlc

Blizzard’s defense against the barrage of players now asking why Blizzard and other developers claimed games needed microtransactions to survive:

wE hAz SpeCial conDiTionS…or something

Diablo IV senior designer Chris Balser said that it is important to remember that not all studios operate under the same conditions.

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-no F2P option

You forgot that part.

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The fact Blizzard’s loot box casinos are free to enter, just like a real casino, is not a very redeeming feature.

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Still.

The free to play model is basically that.

Know the guy who is paying like crazy trying to open the signature legendaries?

This is the person paying your game. Being “abusive” is why it’s free. There is no such thing as free lunch.

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also it lets you walk around with your Johnson out even if you are ‘body type 2’ person!

can’t wait until that comes to all games including hearthstone, the wiggling on the attacking portraits are going to be epic noodle !

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That in itself isn’t a bad thing. It’s not like every client is equally profitable. Heck, some clients may not even allow a business to break even.

Or a business may just purposely incur some losses here to make money elsewhere. Like… casinos may pay to have buses ferry people to their location for free. Who knows if all the people will gamble. I’ve only went to eat (and I’m not sure how profitable restaurants at casinos are) :stuck_out_tongue:

If anything I wish the “you don’t have to pay out of pocket but still get some level of service” model gets applied elsewhere. Say… health care.

The issue is more on the gambling/addiction aspect.

Murlocs have been struttin around mostly naked for years. Bliz is a very perverted company :stuck_out_tongue:

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The F2P business model has really devolved into unregulated casinos.

Actual casinos are heavily regulated. Just the fact casinos are forced to make it crystal clear they are casinos and have to have a gambling license to even be a casino is significant. To operate a casino you have to abide by tons of legal requirements.

Games don’t even need to make it clear they have gambling like loot boxes in them. It is done completely unregulated and even involves minors, which is just insane to me. And the fact literally anyone can just distribute these games with 0 legal requirements if even more insane.

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Isn’t…this…a…hearthstone forum? Where we discuss Hearthstone stuff? Hearthstone problems and Hearthstone issues and Hearthstone crituques???

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Stopped being that when the developers stopped visiting here. Now its just…a forum.

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It was Blizzard developers, including Hearthtone devs, who started arguing about Baldur’s Gate 3 on Twitter, like Blizzard’s Chris Balser. Blizzard argued players shouldn’t expect this type of game from them, and that it was an anomaly. We didn’t start the debate, Blizzard did.

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Well.

We are discussing gaming monetization models and technically any game follow one including hearthstone. So it isn’t really dificult to see how we got here.

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It is not bad but still very linear as you will realize soon enough. The game is actually very small and very contained.

Personally, I find the 5th edition DnD to be way too simplistic… I had way more fun experimenting and trying things in the Pathfinder last two games ( which are not perfect either … )

But in BG3, you can spend hours selecting the salami you have between your legs ( I guess that makes it more RPG than Pathfinder haha :slight_smile:

Anyway, my opinion… Cheers!

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I already played through the early access twice and I thought it was pretty huge and excellent. There is certainly going to be more added to it later, I’m sure. But the game is definitely already packed with 100s of hours.

I love the DnD ruleset. I absolutely hated Pathfinder games more than anything else. There’s nothing I hate more than playing a game, getting 80+ hours through and then it will get to a point where you can actually lose the entire game and must start from scratch. Atrocious design. AND, it was extremely difficult. I hated it and I tried it 3 different times, and all 3 times my kingdom would fall no matter what I did. There’s no way I’m restarting a new game to try it all over again. It’s like you had to be extremely familiar with Pathfinder ruleset in order to be successful.

That’s why I love the DnD rulesets better. They are way easier to understand. The one beautiful thing about BG3 is how easy it is to understand what spells and abilities do. They really nailed it with the descriptions. Descriptions in other games are way too vague (like in Pathfinder and Pillars of Eternity, for example). BD3 lays it out in a way that is completely understandable. How many times you can use an ability, when it refreshes, range, time, how it works, it’s all perfect.

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I disagree but thanks for sharing. We simply see that new game differently.