As Control Reno Blood DK vs Control Reno Priest

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I had 97 health and 24 armor in standard mode… he lost to Mograine but also I outvalued them.

Step aside Priest, let the real control decks into the meta hahaha

Seriously, why does anyone play priest when BBB Reno DK is in the format?

Despite him stealing half my deck to save his own butt I still win… very satisfying to punch priest in the face to 0 hp

Even being as awful as it is, I still find Priest more annoying to play against than paladin.

Duking out a 40 minute game just to lose at the end? How does anyone find this class fun to play?

Your own class cards are so bad that you have to steal other classes cards to be remotely viable?

Whichever dev designed Priest this past year should be tarred and feathered.

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It’s really a chess type of game. If you’re beating Priests easy as a Blood DK, I’d argue that you’re playing against bad Priest players who don’t know how to win that matchup.

I rarely lose to BBB DK because I can copy the Primus and the Morgraine. There’s also a Raden combo to get out multiple Primus and multiple Priest Titans. You can really out value the BBB DK that way. The problem is, most Priest players don’t know how to win against that deck because they play the matchup the same way they play all other matchups.

For BBB DK to win vs me they have to get extremely lucky and hit my key cards with Patch or they have to have an early Morgraine with super early pressure while I have no copy abilities and no removals.

Dude…you’re playing BBB DK with the win con of Morgraine…you’re SPECIFICALLY looking for 40 minute games to Fatigue with your deck. Could you be any more hypocritical? lol

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More like checkers… and the odds are against the Priest. I know you main Priest but it’s really not as big brain as you seem to think. Alot of it on the Priest end is pure rng.

I wouldn’t say that relying on rng to steal your opponent’s exact cards is very chess-like.

How do you think I got to 97 health? The Priest copied my Primus TWICE and stole the Mograine but still lost.

Somebody didn’t thoroughly read the VS meta report. It’s a soft counter to Paladin which is currently Tier S.

The deck also does fine against the rest of the field.

It’s not tier 1 but it’s serviceable and just so happens to beat the only tier S deck in the meta right now that everyone’s spamming for free wins (Paladin)

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That’s because you probably haven’t played the matchup AS a Priest AGAINST BBB DK. It’s not just stealing(copying) your opponent’s cards. It’s about playing them at the right time. Baiting out the Primus into your titan so you can Primus the buffed Primus. Setting up a massive board that Blood DK can’t remove with double Raden boards back to back.

If you think a Priest player can just be brain dead or that the matchup requires no thought, I challenge you to play as a Control Priest vs BBB DK and win consistently. It’s much harder for the Priest to win than the BBB, but if the Priest is really good they will win more often. Control Priest is the chess player in that matchup, the BBB DK player is the checkers player.

The Priest player was terrible and allowed you to Primus on a massive minion. Exactly what I mean by you playing against a bad Priest player or a Priest player who is playing the matchup like they do any other matchup rather than understanding the order things need to be played to win.

So? My statement wasn’t how good Blood DK is. My statement was about you making fun of another player playing a class that draws games out while you are also playing a deck that tries to draw the game out.

“Duking out a 40 minute game just to lose? How does anyone find this fun?”

Meanwhile, you’re playing a deck that wins against slower decks by duking out a 40 minute game. You’re the product of the very thing you’re making fun of. Has nothing to do with out how good BBB is.

A control deck player making fun of another control deck player is pretty crazy.

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Tell us you’re a Priest main without telling us you’re a Priest main :wink:

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Well of course I am. Again, I’m not saying BBB DK isn’t the better deck. I even said so in another thread. It has everything a Control Deck wants to have.

Control Priest vs BBB DK is my favorite matchup to play because it’s a game you can win as a Priest with excellent game play decisions. It’s really fun and a good test of skill.

When I play BBB DK, I beat most Control Priests because they don’t have a clue how to play against it. Control Priests tend to play removal if they have it rather than waiting for a specific card to catch in the removal.

Here’s me, as Control Priest, absolutely crushing a Blood DK Highlander deck because they Primus just as I explained above allowing me to Primus back. Notice I lose my Raden also and still smashed him. Had I not lost Raden I would have embarrassed him as you embarrassed the Priest you played. And look at my hand at the end. 2 Yoggs. lol

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Sorry to say but 1 game sample size is not very convincing.

Statistics are, and the statistics say that Priest as a class is garbage for the most part.

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I didn’t say it was. I showed a game to show what proper Priest play is vs the deck.

Correct. Control Priest loses to BBB DK overall in the vast statistics of things. Just like Naga DH also loses to many things overall in the statistics.

But when in the hands of a great pilot and knowledge and skill are mixed in, it flips.

That’s the part you’re struggling with. You just want to act like BBB DK will roll over Control Priest players and I’m just telling you it won’t roll over good ones. The vast majority of Control Priest players aren’t the good ones.

So, this is the part of the argument you won’t acknowledge as being accurate:
But when in the hands of a great pilot and knowledge and skill are mixed in, it flips.

Control Priest is, as already statistically proven in another thread, a deck that rewards you more when you’re a good pilot. It is a skill testing deck in this meta, just like Naga DH stats show it is a skill rewarding deck.

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I love it when Ctrl priests snag my mograine, copy it a few times… and now I’m taking 9 damage per turn compared to their 3.

Priest usually has a specific out against slow decks, but it’s not always obvious.

For example: I was working on my priest 1k wins during the time of tickatus locks… I had something like a 60% win rate against them because I figured out that the key to winning was just to steal exactly Galakrond with illucia. They were so focused on trying to burn my cards because everyone thought priest couldn’t beat tickatus locks, but in reality, it was just a very specific line of play to flip the matchup that most weren’t focused on doing.

Unfortunately that counted as a lock win :frowning:

There are definitely things that priest can do that make blood DK fall apart (multiple Ignis, multiple mograine come to mind). It’s just rare that I find control priests actually aim for those lines of play.

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Exactly man. I think a lot of people play Priest because they think it’s easy mode or something and they end up being terrible at it or very mediocre.

I’m playing Control Priest right now. According to actual stats, I should be at like a 40% win rate with it. How the hell am I sporting a 60% win rate with it right now? Because I know what to do that other Priest players don’t. I know how to find a win.

Just like you said, back in the days of Tickatus, everyone was saying Priest couldn’t beat it. It was so massively unmatched. Then I found a counter with Clowns and Nzoth and posted I had a major win rate against it. Forums called BS. I showed my deck and people ended up posting similar results.

I didn’t think of the stealing Galakrond idea. That was probably a good one!

And that’s the problem. When I play against another Control Priest deck, I know that 90% of the time they have the meta deck because they don’t know how to build their own, I know exactly what they are going to do and I know they think they know how to beat the mirror and beat me but then I do things they don’t really think about.

For example, against another Control Priest 2 months ago I knew his win condition was Titus and that can be hard to beat as another Control Priest because of all the copies. And I knew his win con was in his ETC.

So what did I do that he’s likely never seen? I played my spell discount, next turn played ETC and Whirlpool. Now he can’t win how he thought.

Just things like that. Thinking differently on HOW to win. Instead, especially in this meta, players already know how they are going to win and they just play this solo mode style of play not thinking about what their opponent is doing.

Blood DKs playing Primus without even thinking of the repercussions. Instead, if you’re a Blood DK playing against a Priest, if you want a much better chance at winning, play your Primus, use the blood ability for life then IMMEDIATELY kill it off.

But you won’t see Blood DKs doing that. They don’t know to do that. None of them have ever done that.

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Naga DH is a thing? I love DH, but I can’t seem to find a list. Do you have one by chance?

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It’s more of a thing at High Legend. It’s currently everywhere in the World’s Championship right now. I think everyone brought DH Naga because it’s an all in OTK game ending deck but if you make 1 mistake you’re screwed.

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That’s the deck they are running for the most part.

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I’ve done that as plague before to make sure they can’t copy Helya. I know I’m going to hit fatigue first, and it sucks taking more plague damage than the priest because they copied one card.

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