In Standard you are on your own against an enemy; it makes you focus entirely on your own skill; in Battlegrounds the random nuances of others fighting each other may give you an advantage and you may not deserve it always
In BGs if you are on the top 4: you are still a “winner”; that would be like being the winner in Standard if you lost by “only 24%”; Standard has more “real”/meaningful wins
Standard helps you build a thick skin. In BGs it’s easy to feel comfy among others losing. In standard: you lose ALONE.
[Also: Creativity: in Standard you can construct a deck of your own]
From a consumer’s perspective, BGs, imo, holds the most value. You don’t have to buy into anything in order to play the full game or even spend any time until you have full access; you can jump right into the game. If you are reaching much higher ranks ~6k or so, you may want to buy into the pass in order to have full her choice, tho now I’d argue hero choice means little compared to the quests given in the current meta.
Compare this to Constructed, which you also don’t HAVE to spend money/time in order to start playing, but you won’t have any cards to keep a good standing without spending a lot of time farming gold for packs.
Per your points:
I can’t agree 100% with this one. Aggro decks imo take little knowledge other than knowing what wins the game (reducing your opponents face to zero) and playing your green cards. I’ll concede aggro decks have gotten a bit more complicated, but they don’t require a lot of thought in order to play. BGs, as you say, so much RNG involved in every phase of the game, what you say is true.
This one depends on your rank in BGs
I don’t even get this one. Thick skin for what from what? Also, BGs is a free-for-all. Arguably it’s more difficult because you can face more than one person high rolling their RNG.
I’ll finalize by adding Constructed has more and more RNG factors every new release. It’s one of those factors the devs add to the game many times over because it will help sell cards. Finally, unless you homebrew, you are essentially copying and pasting decks to navigate the meta. Sure, you can change a card here or there to accommodate what you seem to be facing the most, but you are adhering to a set deck, thus you have little to no choice.
I don’t see money related/p2w differences since it’s p2w to have 2 more hero choices and it’s p2w to have easier access to constructed cards too.
I get that constructed has more “clunky randomization” because of its slower-card-drawing but it also has deeper thinking at constructing and piloting; BGs depends to a bigger extend to randomly-generated synergies which has its value as a game of “who can think faster on more cards”; but at the same time constructed can be even more in depth to “plan” when you have unlimited time to construct synergies offline so it’s an alternative way with alternative advantages.
I get that at high ranks “top 4” is as if saying “top 2” at low ranks.
At the end of the day it’s partly apples and oranges of course so you can also say “why not both” but if you must choose one: I believe constructed is more for those who want to “pre-design” and BGs more for those who prefer “on the fly” [or the same person may choose one or the other depended on what what they want between the 2 at a specific time].
When Standard is great, it is a better experience than Battlegrounds.
But 3/4 of the time, Standard is not great.
They’ll sit on their hands for a month while Druid plays their Titan 8 times in a turn every game.
Or I’m supposed to enjoy the opponent playing Sif mage while playing 6 spells that give them immune effects and have a single minion that clears most boards and run 2.
They’ve proved they will perpetually do a poor job balancing standard and I gave up on Standard.
And you have no reading comprehension. I said later that both types are good depended on what you need.
You are in a juvenile quest to find what is “best” when it’s apples and oranges.
EDIT: though I probably replied to a spambot considering that on the other thread it literally replied to itself and it accidentally took itself as another person.
EDIT 2: it’s definitely a spam bot. it posts that same russian channel. check its history.
Don’t even reply to the “Donny” bot (just report it). It’s part of that same russian scam operation that posts a russian youtube channel (the same every time). Check its history for the youtube URLs.
[PS when it speaks more “human like” after it is exposed: it’s probably the same human person who sometimes replies in person/manually to pretend it’s not always an AI/bot spamming]
I agree with this when we’re talking higher ranks, and I definitely can’t agree right now in the current meta where quests drive the meta, not hero choice.
We can go back and forth on this all day until we decide “that’s your opinion” is the best answer
I’m genuinely curious of your reasoning for this. You have all the cards immediately available (lets assume you have a full collection), while in BGs you click “Play” and you are limited to 2/4 heroes, a specific pool of minions and whatever the shop offers you in the Recruit phases. Per your point as well:
I will say, tho, I am a bit tired of BGs and would loove to get back to Standard. However, Standard as of right now is not worth my time in comparison to BGs and other games for that matter. I don’t mind RNG in constructed, but there is soooo much of it right now. 30 card deck limitation? This is until you enter the game where Discover or something close to it can be found on 50% of cards.
It’s the one that’s with multiple accounts spamming the forums recently. Just report, ignore and move on
I meant you can construct a very elaborate plan when you have 30+ cards planned; e.g. you may devise a plan to gradually build up some kind of synergy that requires most cards of the deck for 8+ rounds; on BGs you usually work for the next 3 or 4 rounds max because the first rounds are heavily RNG depended and: by the time you figure out a synergy: you are usually 2-3 rounds until you know if you will win or lose the total game.
PS those spam accounts / youtube click farmers can be autobanned temporarily by the simple reports, but if others want to help (and have the time): it’s more effective to open a ticket to Blizzard (and when they inevitably copy-paste something unuseful in the ticket: insist by replying “no look at it manually pls”).
