Do you guys realize that by nerfing wind walk and ignoring undying rage and conjuration of light you still haven’t fix the main issue of PVP which is still as bad as before ?
Instead of having the most tempests, barbarians and crusaders it is now which team has the most barbarians and crusaders now. Nothing has changed and more people will just cater to barbarians or crusaders now.
You incompetence is beyond insane. If you have to balance immunities then for gods sake do it for all classes across the board. This bias and hate towards one specific class, being tempest here, solves nothing but only shows how incapable you are in making rational decisions.
Good job in killing your latest class for free to play players and creating more barbarian and crusader problems. A bunch of monkeys could have done a better job than your sad excuse for a balancing team.
Your tempest is the most op class at game, are you really crying about not beeing powerful enough? I was hopeing that tempest gets another nerf because there is only a barb that maybe come close in terms of survival, dash/speed and aoe dammage and this all paired together.
You are kidding me ? Barbarian and crusaders one shot while immune to all damage. Both of these classes right now cause alot more destruction than a tempest ever will and tempest just lost his immunity and had his shields severely reduced. Tell me you are biased without telling me you are biased.
Nothing of that excuses the still problematic game breaking damage immunities from barbarian and crusaders via undying rage and conjuration of light. Right now the most played classes in legend tier. Especially potent in the new bg map. If they nerf immunities they must nerf it across the board without bias.
@GhostSignal forward toning down all class specific damage immunities per wind walk treatment to the balancing team → Undying rage and conjuration of light will no longer provide damage immunity and dispel when you perform a action.
Wind walk was more problematic as TP could not be CCed or damaged while doing heavy burst damage.
Barbs (without Heartless Terror) can be CCed/pulled/pushed away from idol. Same for Cruz. There are enough solution to block them (but it costs dps essences). If they focus dps, they are more vulnerable to CC and lack defence out of immunity (CoL duration aroud 6 sec with #30 sec cd). If you see the immunity proc, just walk away 5 sec and finish the job.
If you can heal safely under wind walk, it is still good for survivability.
What ? Barbarian and Crusader can move freely while immune to all damage. Both of them have immunity to cc options over longer durations e.g. heartless terror for demoralize (just got ridiculous huge improvement with the new demoralize essences), new dread desecreation for cleave (literally permanent cc immunity with lurkers last chance), Bale protector for crusaders falling sword (close to permanent uptime with luminous reign).
Tempest’s damage immunity was only stationary before they ruined wind walk. Now its a completely useless skill in terms of damage immunity in contrast to the barbarians and crusaders gamebreaking overpowered superior skills.
If you want to be biased at least come up with better arguments.
@GhostSignal take this matter serious as these immunities are game breaking and ruined pvp since they existed
Bale protector replaces Majestic rose on the shoulder so this build has significantly less dps and is not currently played in meta (few still use falling sword but only main hand for mobility, not dps).
Its Cc immunity does not last long enough to be efficient (duration of the shield) especially against high dps adversary (less efficient than shield of zen from monk).
In this case, the cruz is barely a threat, just a temporary stalling object under idol. Savior is more efficient as you can move freely with no life.
Try the CoL chest piece that replaces damage immunity with cc immunity and you are dead in no time (and it replaces the meta condemn chest, so way less dps).
Knowing how irrational they are they will never fix the ridiculous barbarian and crusader dmg&cc immunities while dealing ridiculous amount of damage and there is no excuse for them to exist in their current gamebreaking form. Tempest is now a dead class for low reso players and i already abandoned it. Good job blizzard for killing your latest class for the majority of the playerbase. Your incompetence knows no bounds.
Hmm ? Most overpowered barb build is immune to all damage and cc while doing game breaking damage with a insane radius and pulling everything around him with no escape no matter how far. Now with the new demoralize essences it is more broken than ever. You cant deny it.
This build will use:
Helm : Heartless Terror (cc immunity)
Chest : Shackled fate (spear pull spam)
Legs : buried talons (+19% dmg from spear)
MH1 : Rage caller (50% snare with hammer)
MH2 : new demo essence iron tusk (+22% crit)
OH1 : new demo essence promised sunrise (+28% Movement speed and Attack speed)
OH2 : flickertonne (hammer spam)
For reference the old but yet still overpowered build with partial cc immunity for knockdown:
Helm : Krubask sneer (19% crit rate)
Chest : Shackled fate (spear pull spam)
Legs : buried talons (+19% dmg from spear)
Shoulder : broken calling (partial cc immunity for knockdown)
MH1 : Rage caller (50% snare with hammer 10% less hammer cd)
MH2 : stonefall (+19% hammer dmg 10% less hammer cd)
OH1 : roar of persuasion (50% crit dmg and hp leech) → most broken thing
OH2 : flickertonne (hammer spam)
Skills build1 : demoralize, chained spear, hammer of the ancients, undying rage
Skills build2: wrath of the berserker, chained spear, hammer of the ancients, undying rage
This abomination of a build ist the most broken thing to ever exist. High crit chance, insane damage with insane aoe through hammer with snare plus spammable, constant chain pulling with no escape, damage immunity + cc immunity.
Nothing comes close to that but nerfing tempest’s only defense against it is okay ?
Man wake up guys. Its clear what you main but at least be mindful and fair.
@GhostSignal either have them undo the tempest nerf to wind walk or nerf all immunities across the board.
They need to nerf all or none. Otherwise it is bias and propaganda. Whats so hard to understand about that ? Also new bg map heavily favours barbs and crusaders if you haven’t noticed unless you never touch pvp then it would make sense why you are so out of touch.
Enter the battlegrounds and you will see mostly barbs + crusaders for whale and f2p alike due to their cheesy immunitie and tempests are now only for whales as f2P/low reso can’t survive anymore without the immunity from wind walk. So the tempest class became completely unplayable for f2p/low reso players. There is nothing more to explain.
@GhostSignal forward this issue to the balancing team and have them address it
Because I like facts and maths, I decided to look a the resonance of the top 10 Legend ranked Tempests on my server/cluster…
Rank 1 - 5613 resonance
Rank 2 - 3279 resonance
Rank 3 - 4124 resonance
Rank 4 - 4521 resonance
Rank 5 - 4001 resonance
Rank 6 - 2154 resonance
Rank 7 - 7595 resonance
Rank 8 - 9542 resonance
Rank 9 - 970 resonance
Rank 10 - 4816 resonance
So, what’s your explanation for the 2154 and 970 resonance Tempests in the Top 10?
Heck, one of them is so low resonance they don’t even have wings yet!
@GostSignal please nerf crusader and barbarian broken immunities and undying rage and conjuration of light the same way you did for tempest’s wind walk. Stop the bias and propaganda towards one specific class based on feelings and predujice without adressing the main problem. Thanks, bye.
You realise that Barbarians have had 6 or 7 nerfs, right? And when Barbs complained, all the other classes essentially told us “suck it up, buttercup” so don’t expect much sympathy when other classes get nerfed, especially when it’s the current top, flavour of the month class, Tempest, which has the most Legend players, by far, of all the classes in BGs.
Scroll up to where you made feelings-base claims about it being impossible for F2P players to be effective as Tempests in BGs, and I showed you that a Tempest who doesn’t even have enough Resonance to have gotten their first wings yet was in the Top 10 Legend.
They did address it. That’s why Tempests were nerfed.
