Let’s talk real, wizard nerf is not class balancing, it’s pacifism.
Nerfing a build that is not even OP, opens the door for more imbalances, especially when at the moment the wizard cc/freeze build is not even playable due other classes meta.
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Guy, if you dont even think that the old wiz was op then i would like to know what you consider op. This class needed only to stand at a corner and got mysterious kills from everywhere. Endless ports, endless cc, nearly no cooldowns, mega range +dps, skills that remains even after he is dead.
Most people cant even see what hits them before got killed. Even after the nerf the class is still to strong and needs to be tuned down, i had now even to use the faltergrasp one star just to have at least a chance to reach a wiz.
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CC builds don’t have an endless port, or mobility or mega range DPS, and Lightning wizard can’t use CC. It is either you focus on CC or Damage, but not both because both builds share the same essence slot. For example, Freeze essence shares the same body essence as Lightning essence.
And CC builds generally don’t use Terminus, but Visage and both essences are Head slot.
and Lightning Nova now disappears when the wizard is dead in this patch. Do you miss the memo?
Current leaderboards from…
EU Server Cluster = The Martyr / Sea of Light / Crystal Arch / Diamond Gates / Peace Warders
| Class | Number of Legends |
|---|---|
| Wizard | 26 Legends |
| Barbarian | 15 Legends |
| Monk | 6 Legends |
| Demon Hunter | 10 Legends |
| Crusader | 7 Legends |
| Necromancer | 14 Legends |
| Blood Knight | 4 Legends |
| Tempest | 10 Legends |
| Druid | 5 Legends |
Wizard has almost twice as many Legends as any other class but they’re not OP, you say?
So, people are just picking that class because, all of a sudden, they like the archetype?
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Like always your data shows exactly my impression from the current situation at bg, it really could be a tier list.
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I was talking about the old version of the wiz before the nerf, sadly its not much better now after it. Wiz has just too much movement + too high dps and you must adjust the whole gear and skills to even have a chance to catch a wiz. There is a reason why now every bg match is swarming with wizzards. At the new bg for example they dont even need to use a bandage, they are faster porting from the other end of the arena to his starting field and heal there and be back in business again within a sec.
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Wtf is this post ? Everything about it is inaccurate and absurd. Wizards are still dominating making the other classes look pointless in comparison.
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Why talk about past tense when this thread is about post-nerf wizard? It is easier to admit that you didn’t read the patch note.
Dude, the map has 4 teleporters. Going back to heal is exclusive to every class.
CC or just ignore wizard. You know that BG victory condition is escorting idol to the checkpoint, not about how many wizards you can kill. Instead of worrying about catching wizard, you should question how can there were few classes can continue holding the idol for almost 10 seconds despite their HP bar is blank. Unless you are another tank, there is no ranged DPS class can’t even wrestle the control from them for 2 seconds.
wizard needs a nerf, a REAL NERF
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Troba obviously never played wizard that he doesn’t even know what the build is. He is obviously a low skilled pvp-er who just want to dominate by being the meta class rather than being competitive.
Meteorblade, putting counts of how many players in Legends rank for each class does not equals OP, it means popularity. Do better.
You obviously are one of those low-skilled players. I’m playing necro now and bullying wizards, then here you are arguing without any fact to point. You’re just like Troba
most times popularity follows power, its the main focus of devs in the game
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Most of the time, not all the time. “Most of the time” or “probably” are not conclusive arguments.
For players that are willing to class change in order to chase wins, why would they change to something other than the most powerful class? The more popular a class currently is, the more powerful that class currently is.
If you jump out of a plane a mile in the sky without a parachute…
- Most of the time you’d go splat
- You’d probably go splat
You’re absolutely correct that you might not go splat, you might survive, but arguing for the exception, whilst ignoring a huge rule, doesn’t make your counter-argument terribly persuasive.
What’s your counter-argument that attempts to explain why people would change to a class that’s less powerful / less likely to get them wins?
Go back a few months to when Tempest was the strongest class, and that’s the class that had the most Legends.
It might not be possible to prove causation, but there’s a huge amount of correlation.
Yes, Wizard needs a nerf just like DH. These classes are simply unstoppable, and anyone who plays a character other than DH or Wizard will agree with me. Obviously, if someone plays Wizard or DH, they won’t want that nerf, but the truth is you just have to look at the scoreboard. I’m playing Tempest and I can barely reach Gold 1, while DH and Wizard have long since hit Legend. Tell me, how the hell is that fair? At this point the best option is just to switch classes to feel better than others. Ridiculous…
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You can switch to Necromancer. Easy Legend. 
There were 77 Legend Necromancer in my region, where there were only 50+ Barb and Wiz, and 40+ Legend DH 
https://i.imgur.com/Mpx5ade.png
When people buy mangoes because it’s in season, does it show that mango as the most delicious fruit? NO
Such a stupid argument. The argument of why people would change to that class is the same reasons as why people are changing to Necro now. Either interesting, looks fun, wants to try something else, popularity (as already mentioned).
And correction, Tempest is still deals the highest damage, people just got bored with it.
From your statements, it is very obvious that you’re not up to date about anything about the game. Futile to argue with you.
It shows that people buy whatever fruit happens to be the tastiest at the time.
You know, it’s almost like the concept of the Flavour of the Month, which keeps changing, like the most powerful / popular class keeps changing.
Wizards happen to be in season right now, so that’s why people are picking them.
A quick look at the Leaderboards on the EU server / cluster I play on…
| Class | Number of Legends |
|---|---|
| Wizard | 42 Legends |
| Barbarian | 39 Legends |
| Monk | 9 Legends |
| Demon Hunter | 43 Legends |
| Crusader | 37 Legends |
| Necromancer | 31 Legends |
| Blood Knight | 14 Legends |
| Tempest | 22 Legends |
| Druid | 15 Legends |
So, if the reason people change class is because…
Why are Monks, Blood Knights and Druids are still massively under-represented compared to the other classes? I’d contend that’s because they’re weak currently. What’s your explanation for why Wizards are 3-4 times as popular?
Meanwhile in the SEA region:
https://i.postimg.cc/NjvJGTqm/c1.png
82 Legend Necromancer, and 55+ Legend Wizards and Barbarians.
It seems that your server isn’t aware of the potential of the necromancer…yet.
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If this is true, wouldn’t it tend to confirm that lots of players flock to whatever the strongest class currently is, as there are roughly 50% more Necros than Wiz / Barb?