I think I speak for all when I say vault limitations should be removed or make it like 15-20 per day or maybe per week to a certain extent. This is a win win for all players,be it immortal,shadows and even for devs, the vault rewards are already limited and honestly irrelevant at this point of the game.
Some or say most of us find vault pvp the only fun thing left to do,much better pvp than BG,short and fun yet we can’t spam more than 40 mins if we pvp at floor 2
So this is a humble request to remove the limitations so we can atleast have 2 hours of fun in the game
There are 300 Immortals and thousands of Shadows. The cooldown (already reduced to three minutes after your previous one ended) is there to prevent the Shadows being able to overwhelm the number of defenders by having more Shadows raiding at once than the Immortals could possibly defend against.
They should remove the cooldown and limit because it was really difficult for Immortal to do vault defense for Hilts after Monday. Sometimes, I only got 1-2 VD as Immortal after queueing for an hour.
I have to presume that you don’t know. The best items in the game can be found from vault rewards. On average this is the only place in the game where we can get end game top tier PvP items. So vault rewards are the best place to get it. Just to add that value here
There is no such thing as endgame top-tier PVP items in the vault, whether as shadow or immortal. The reward of doing vault is for hilts, immortal points, and the thrill of fighting other players.
Well, there was a time where I took almost 5 days (only play 1 hour on night side) to cap 1400 hilts.
Like kilometer said it becomes extremely boring for immortals too,queing for an hour just to get 2-3 pvp specially after monday while some shadows who love to vault pvp are restricted due to limits
And I’m not speaking about time limits,3 minute cd is a perfect time,just the 10 limit per day is unnecessary tbh,players who do vault for rewards don’t bother after they cap out hilt anwys,this is a specific request from players who are just looking for pvp vault
Regarding the top tier leg items,i think it can be adjusted accordingly,like maybe shadows can’t steal leg items from vault after they max out their rewards and for immortals it’s obviously who has the most contribution so more competition I guess which is good for game engagement
So, let’s imagine what could happen if they removed the cooldown and the daily limit…
Shadows enter the Vault
Shadows speed-run through Floor 1
Shadows enter Floor 2 and allow a Warden to alert
Shadows stand there and let the Immortals kill them
The entire process would take under 2 minutes per run meaning they could get 30 runs in for each hour the Vault is active. So, what’s the problem with this?
Well, for the immortals, they only get BP points if they successfully defend but for Shadows they get BP points whether they win/escape or lose/are killed. This would mean that doing 30 Vault runs an hour would get them 30 lots of 15 BP per run, i.e. 450 BP per hour, for less effort than doing a dungeon. It would become the de facto META for earning BP and would only be available to Shadows.
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Oh, and also, there’s currently a bug with the way Vault raids contribute to the Shadows’ weekly tasks. Shadows are supposed to earn 1 task completion for a Vault raid. Instead, what actually happens, is that Shadows are awarded one task completion for every floor of the Vault they visit, i.e. if Shadows go to Floor 4, they get 4 of their weekly tasks completed. With no cooldown, and no restrictions, this means they could do five Vault raids in 15-20 minutes, and have all 20/20 of their weekly tasks completed. Heck, even if they fixed that bug, without cooldown / restrictions, you could fit 20 Vault raids in under an hour. Does it sound fair that one of the factions would be able to complete their weekly tasks in less than an hour?
I don’t understand why are you so against this idea, it’ll only bring more engagement to the game,most of your rebuttals are not even relevant
I said 3 min cd was perfect,just remove the limits or increase it or maybe make it even weekly like I said earlier in my post so whenever a player wants to enjoy vault pvp for an hour they can without worrying about limits plus it’s literally impossible to raid more than 10-13 runs and I’m pretty sure that almost all immortals would love this too who likes doing vault,I sure hell would love it
The bp is so irrelevant here,nobody cares about that,bp points are stacked now per cycle
And again how is weekly quest relevant and I’m pretty sure it’s not a bug,it’s same for immortals, Blizzard just making game easier for players,if you haven’t noticed, players base is also dwindling so fast now
I’m just giving a suggestion which is a win win situation for everybody,some of us literally only play for vault pvp,the only fun thing left to do tbh
I already explained the negative impacts such a chance could have.
So, if the daily limit was removed, but the cooldown remained, you could still fit in 15 vault raids in an hour.
That’s 225 BP in an hour that only Shadows can earn.
Because Shadows have 20 tasks weekly, Immortals have 60 tasks weekly. Shadows can currently cap out their weekly tasks by raiding the vault five times, i.e. in under 30 minutes. Why should one faction be able to complete their weekly tasks in half an hour and the other faction still needs to spend multiple hours, and you want to make it take even less time for Shadows?
It’s like you only see what you want to see in a discussion and ignore the rest,this is actually hilarious,I wonder what one must be to become like this
“Nuh-uh, I still want it” isn’t what I’d call refutation.
Removal of the cooldown and/or increase to the daily limit would enable one faction to earn BP at an unfair rate compared to the other faction. Heck, if the cooldown was removed, Shadows could enter the Vault, speed through Floor 1, exit the Vault, all in under a minute and do that 60 times in each Vault hour, for 15 BP per run, i.e. 900 BP / hour. You could cap out your weekly BP in 2 hours 40 minutes of Vault runs but only if you were a Shadow. Does this sound fair to Adventurers and Immortals?
I never said to remove vault cd,never mentioned in the orginal post,clarified it in second reply and clarified it again specifically just for you on my 3rd reply and I asked you to read my post again and yet you still putting words in my mouth,are you like literally blind or just so egoistic that you just argue for the sake of argument?
And who’s doing vault for bp,literally no one, it’s better to run a COE dg for less than 4mins which gives 40bp,legs,gems,greens,scraps,i assumed anybody who plays this game will know this hence I didn’t elaborate when I said bp was irrelevant,bp is stacked per cycle now btw which I previously mentioned since the last two patch
You win. I conceit. You are superior than me. You are the supreme being,Your are the singularity. I apologise to you and myself for even engaging in a discussion with you. Good day.
Hopefully Devs take this request into consideration looking at all the in and outs for players like us. I won’t be engaging in this post anymore,thank you all.
Actually I don’t mind if Shadow can cap their BP faster as long as I can get a VD to max my hilts fast. I mean, people have been capping BP fast right and left until now and it never affected my experience at all.
