Barbs have auto trigger Undying and cc immune to run away from fights, why not give it to Saders too.
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I understand the need (and the pain) but i think cruz would be too OP if blankly added on the base skill.
Maybe at least 1 essence giving this possibility would be nice, most probably on the shoulder to have a tradeoff and to combine well with pants/chests essences.
Lets say 1 essence to autotrigger it before dying would be nice and/or 1 essence to use it under CC. But both should be on shoulder to keep it from being OP (with essences that extend its duration or shorten its cd) and maybe have either a reduced duration or slight cd increase to balance it out.
Unfortunately, that would require 2 difficulties to be added at the expense of other skills, so most unlikely to happen imo.
I guess that adding such effect(s) on old pant essences would be too OP.
Sader needs a essence which shield him longer but dont affect party anymore, a barb can run up to 9+ sec arround with undying (its like 3 time casting our shield in a row).
If they add such a essence not at shoulder because this would kill the only good meta build the sader has atm, best place would be pants maybe.
Another thing the bubble should get as a rework is that it can be used while you are cc, there is not much use for such a skill if i cant use him if i need it most (casting a 3 sec shield with a cooldown from hell before i enter fights makes the duration even smaller).
Another big thing the sader needs is some kind of cc breaker, any wiz can easy stunlock sader for hours and he cant do anything against it. Sader has no tankiness, no movement/dash and cooldowns from hell, it is a class that really struggles at higher reso matches and especially against op barbs and wiz.
Last shield charge essence that duels is quite good in terms of anti-cc and tankyness. Using the extra charge on the helm, you can perma duel any class (when the hit is registered).
Incandescence (falling sword anti-cc running main hand) is also really good.
Extended CoL duration on shoulder +2p vithu are almost a must for tankyness, at the price of dps of course.
I also saw a few fellow cruz using the solo shield CoL on chest (9sec cd?) that you are kind of asking for.
If you add the pant that give -50% CC duration and stoneheart 1* gem (shield increase + cc duration reduction) + paragon that increase shields, it can be good. Lucent watcher and the ancien legendary helm that gives extra 6% cc reduction + 4p charlatane could make up for something good.
Another fantasy build which works maybe at low reso matches, if you use the duell stuff against high resos you get wrecked. There is a reason why nobody uses this essences because they dont work at hard enemies and groups, even a whale streamer was struggeling with that and plays meta.
Another point is that you sacrifice so much dps and other usefull things that you maybe just should switch to barb then and become all of this and more for free.
I have a duel build and i can stall high reso long enough to reduce their impact on the game and this is enough to win the objective. It can also be effective to tank and stall a group with the proper settings (but not 4x 8k+ reso/secondaries).
Yes, i don’t play dps but frontline tank. I prevent adversaries from reaching the idol, allowing my teammates to push it safely while covering me. Other meta cruz are not a problem for me as I outlast their CoL and know how to deal with their CC.
I won’t convince anyone to play like me, I have my own results and it satifies me.
Anyway, the point was not really about duel build but CoL. You mentioned an essence that would be limited to the cruz and i just said it already exists (Shelter of Khalim) and additional possibilities to have anti-cc or at least high cc reduction.
Bottom line being may be that there is no meta dps build available today outside of Rose+Heart+Refrain, locking up at least 3 skills.
lol the shelter of khalim takes aways the 3 sec invulnerability and replaces it with a tiny absorb shield, like i sayed fantasy builds.
If you really want take away the last remaining strenght the sader has then have fun using this not to mention that you destroy the build with it too.
I talk about that we need a bubble that has a longer duration and is useable while cc but not shield allies anymore. Such a essence would be fair if a barb can run around 9 sec+ without hp we need something to counter that (and that at a slot that dont breaks the one useable build we have atm).
Ok, let’s say they add such essence on the pants then what would be the trade off ?
Not giving CoL to allies would not be a trade off as you don’t have to care about them anymore (which is kind of already the case on this dps build → mostly solo build than teamplay).
What would happen with whales using it ? How do you counter them ? Longer CoL usable under CC would make this already powerfull meta totally OP. May be you should consider increasing resistance or using defensives gems that reduce CC to help you get the window to use CoL.
Rose is available since Inferno II and the blinding shield did an upgrade on Inferno V. We are reaching Inferno VIII, meaning this meta is lasting almost 600 paragon level (more or less 60 weeks). Such addition would make the meta way too OP to even consider any other PvP build for at least 100 extra levels.
I understand your claim but it is way more fantasy than what we already have in stock.
With this comment you call barbs as total op, they have this survival and the new essences brought nearly the same dps and aoe radius then a sader has + good speed on top, they even have cc break which is the reason that nearly every whale out there is playing barb oder broken wiz atm.
It would be a good tradeoff to have a shield essence that only protects you but holds longer because the situation atm is that you chanceless against barbs especially in modes like vault or ritual you will see how bad the sader perform against them.
I would even go further and say that we need cc immunity or more movement speed with essences, sadly most of our slots are already locked for must have essences and to get stuff other toons have at his basic set of skills.
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