Torment 1 - all 750 Legendaries. Occasional 1 GAs. Basic Uniques.
Torment 2 - all 1 GA Gear. All Ancestral. No 750. All 1 GA Ancestral Uniques.
Torment 3 - All 2 GA Gear. No 1 GAs.
Torment 4 - All 3 GA Gear. Occasional 4 GA.
IF Torment 1 is End Game then we should be able to build our characters there. If Torment 4 is the hardest thing in the game, then we should be getting the best stuff on a consistent basis.
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I think we will see more yes but I cant speak to how many more. Mainly I canât help but notice the glaring hole in gear where there should be non Greater Affix Ancestral items. Also, why can we still not turn white items into blue items and then into yellow items yet? That would make things so much smoother.
Not in any significant way. The RNG is pretty well baked in. They could increase the drop rate by 100%, but the numbers are already so low that you would barely notice a difference. For example fighting uber bosses right now on a full inventory I end up with 1 or sometimes 2 items with GAâs which averages out to somewhere around 4.5% of the total drops. Those could be single GA, and in extremely rare cases 2 GA and even rarer 3GA which I havenât to see from a boss this season and only through seasonal repeatable caches.
What we are talking about for getting even a 2GA unique is a percentage of a percentage that even if the drop rate were tripled would still be less than 1%. Belial seems to have better drop rates for these items and is the one true target farmable boss in the game but is locked behind multiple layers of RNG that require getting the boss mats themselves, having him appear after killing a boss on the ladder and finally having your chosen cache drop the needed rewards.
The RNG doesnât stop here because despite a luck 3 or 4 GA roll your unique item could still roll a base power and end up being worse than a 750 item in a higher roll. But if you did manage to get a good roll now you get to masterwork it which has yet another layer of RNG.
Low drop rates and heavily weighted RNG are the only way to slow us down so they lean heavily into that to drive engagement. There is competition in the ARPG space right now for your time and the two biggest players in that space are pushing the limits to see what players will tolerate.
Subtract 1 GA on all levels as sanity tax and I am on board.
Nothing will change they have said this before
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Theyâve said things will be more rewarding atleast 3 times can remember.
For sure before Season 8 and yesterday.
And we are only lucky to get a 1 GA in T4 right now in live S8.
If they do effectively change the drop rates of good gear and not just more crap you donât need by tierâŚthere will actually be a reason to push the higher tiers sooner.
Currently there isnât.
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Iâd like to see 2 GA being common in T3 and T4. For sure T4 2 GA drops in all sorts of different activities.
T4 drops for 3 GA I think maybe you should get 3 GA Ancestral Legendaries in NMDs.
Make the Butcher really scary and have him drop Mythics or 3GA Uniques,
If T4 is the hardest difficulty, or even all through all Torment levels, itâd be nice to have âhell yesâ moments of stuff dropping consistently for fun.
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To be fair, no one said this, but Butcher was at least better this season than in S7 where he was just embarassing himself.
It will be so slight most wonât even notice.
The real problem here is terrible item progression. With it being pure rng on items the only control they have to slow progression is drop rates. If they want people playing longer they need to rethink item progression so you get better and better items over time.
He seems that way now too. And he always drops a non Ancestral Butchers Cleaver.
Heâs such a cool character.
Itâd be cool if he was super deadly but dropped godly Items.
Annual expansions
Highly requested
A classic Diablo game would not be successful
No more big nerfs
We will nerf overpowered builds faster
Nothing these jokers say is more than used car salesman lip service. If it generates more revenue with minimal effort it will change, guaranteed.
Yeah, we need better quality items. This is unplayable for me.
I imagine it will be on of their âslightâ increases - like it is for runes. Remember if itâs currently a 1% drop rate and they increase the drop rate by 100% (that sounds good, and it is how blizz like to present things - to con us) - it still only makes it 2%.
Also, look at the across the board nerfs - how easy will it be to get into those higher tears were the look drops improve
When i look at the other filthy rogues (im the filthiest one ofc) i rarely see one in WT4 that does not have all his mythics and good rolls and GA-gear. Even the young levels are proudly wielding their doombringers.
People do have nice gear. Imagine making it even easier to get good frops after crying out loud in the forums & social media.
The only reason my Rogue has Mythics is because I bought them.
When I was paragon 251 and I still have not had a Mythic drop from any Boss.
I kept farming and farming and farming so I just flipped Bac Runes until I had 5 Billion Gold and bought all the Runes I needed and Traded Runes and Crafted the Mythics I needed.
Now Iâm 271 and still no Mythics Dropped.
Really crap Season.