After the long process or getting to that point, I finally decided to go after a mythic. and got in a Duriel, Andariel rotation.
Group of four, at least twenty spawns (wasn’t actively counting)… two mythics dropped.
Out of 80 chances… 2 drops. And they were crap that no one needed.
Now i have to go farm all the other bosses… again. For god knows how long… to what? Get skunked again… and again?
I know it’s RNG, but come on. By the time i get what i want for my chars, the season will be over.
YAY, i get to enjoy my build for three days before it all vanishes because… reasons.
Between Tempering rolling the same one out of three affixes 5 times in a row, and this ridiculous grind…
Who has time for this?
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I think you’re playing the wrong game buddy. If instant gratification is in demand, try something more simple. Like a mobile game. I recommend Diablo Immortal.
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2 out of 80 is pretty bad but its not game breaking make a forum post bad. Your party was probably missing some drops or lying. 2 out of 20 rotas with 4 ppl is a very very low chance.
Not a matter of instant gratification. I don’t expect to get it the first run. But two out of 80? And they weren’t even what anyone was looking for.
Now you have to grind all the mats again, for the same odds.
Most people say the game starts at lvl 100. But given how short the seasons are, how are you supposed to get the items required for the end game builds unless you no-life the game?
EDIT: sigh, just venting, it took a long time to get those mats. The thought of having to grind them all over again just for the same thing to happen is daunting. Make me want to say why bother.
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You get one spark from your first Tormented boss kill, one from your first Lilith kill and one from the rep grind.
Just make another toon and do the rep grind to get your fourth one and craft whichever Mythic you want.
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You can get your first crafted mythic within a week at worst. Just get a lilith carry for 50m gold. Get 1 other mythic. The rep from season. And then 1 torment boss kill. EZ PZ
I waited a bit longer to see if I got ring of starless first or shako first and then insta crafted the other one to avoid the dreaded craft shako get shako problem. Worked great. Went from poopoo to OP overnight as soon as my 2nd uber dropped which was the ring making me go insta craft shakos
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The fact is you need to treat farming boss mats like a bloody part-time job, or good luck getting enough stabs at ubers to statistically get the mythics pretty much everyone needs.
This chore is compounded 4-fold if you prefer to fight bosses solo, or just hate the process of trying to find a decent group that also has the same boss mats and can actually contribute to the kill.
Boss mats NEED a significantly higher drop rate, or a reduction in the amount required.
Like you said, who has time for this? This game hates casuals.
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Well, that’s just it.
It took me from the start of the season till now to get those mats. I can’t play 12 hours a day.
And this is just for one mythic. Many builds ask for multiples. And that’s just for one character. God forbid you want to try more than one class.
If it was just a matter of farming Duriel, for example, it wouldn’t be so bad. But the fact that you have to go farm all these other bosses that don’t drop anything and aren’t a challenge is what makes it BS.
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Mythics. Are. Not. Expected. Nor. Required.
It’s Booze Night, but you’re testing my patience
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If i could just log in, and kill Duriel / Andy, it wouldn’t be an issue.
Log in kill each 5 times, no drop… or well, i’ll try again next time. No problem.
But that’s not how it works.
Farm this to get mats for A
Farm that for mats to kill B
Use mats from A, B to get mats from C
Farm those to get mats for D
Use mats from C, D to farm…
It’s just too much.
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I’m gonna fess up. I caved on S5 yesterday. Now don’t get me wrong, I have had bad luck streaks (my first uber took 188 kills in S2 and I was solo), but my experience has been way different and I offer a suggestion in case you are just focusing on Duriel and Andy:
You don’t need to farm mats for hours. Just run IH for stones. Got a ton of Steel? Do Tormented Grig. Leveled glyphs and sitting on fears? Do Beast. I got 2 mythics off him back to back. Normal Duriel/Andy and Tormented Grig and Beast have all dropped Mythics for me and I didn’t group.
All tormented bosses have same drop chance.
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Don’t farm duriel. It takes too much work. I got 4 Ubers from tormented Gregoire and one from beast in the ice. All the tormented bosses have a decent chance for Ubers.
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Well, that’s good to know, i may have to do that to save a lot of grind. Though you still have to farm mats for them, not like you can just log in and kill them. But at least it removes some of it.
Most info seems to make it sound like only Dur / Andy can drop the mythics. Glad to hear they can all drop them.
Thanks for the tip.
You can get the mats for 2 tormented Gregoire in about 30 mins or less. With 3 mind cages can be as fast as 20
“required”
Getting Harlequin and Tyrael’s Might on my sorc (in addition to a better Winterglass I got in the same boss runs) literally jumped me from “meh, I can solo tier 6 Infernal Hordes pretty well” to “Tier 7 Hordes ain’t so bad now!”
The ability to spam tormented bosses with a group that has plenty of summon mats is by far, by leaps and bounds, the most productive thing you can do in this game to advance your character.
You have to kill Blood Maiden (the only reasonable and consistent source of exquisite blood) about 20 times for ONE tormented Zir summon. Nobody can convince me that this is a reasonable amount for one boss attempt.
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This is not abnormal, I had to kill close to 100 torm bosses for my first uber this season.
I was well below the 7.5% rate and kept grinding and when I still needed starless and tyraels I proceeded to find 4 grandfathers in a row. Not in quick succession, pretty long streaks in between.
Anyway, I have heard many players with similar experiences this season and overall it still wasn’t that hard.
You just have to keep grinding it, yeah you will always be in a group with some lucky bastard that pulls 2 on one kill when you haven’t seen one for 40 kills but that’s RNG for you.
It’s already pretty easy to get the highest tier items in the game. Genuinely, how easy do you want it to be? Like you get a mythic of your choice every 5-10 kills? Would that be satisfying?
So… just to be clear…
You had to kill a tormented boss 100 times… not a normal version, tormented, 100 times to get a single uber, which may or may not have been what you needed…
And you call this “pretty easy”?
I wish i had your amount of free time and patience.
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Tyraels Might is the best uber in the game now I think. Its that good for defense. You get it and you never die again. Its that simple.
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Yup. And most classes should be able to tweak their paragon trees completely out of all-resist, and probably also some survivability nodes, and aim for even more damage.
Just got done soloing 10 Tormented Duriel and 7 Tormented Andariel. Nada for at least the same amount of work. So far this season zero for T Duriel and one or maybe 2 for T Andariel for maybe 120 solo runs. I got another two off of T BiI and regular Zir. I also crafted two because now Rogue builds don’t seem to perform without them. Of the three or four that I “found” two were Seligs and one was Doombringer. Cool, huh? If Blizzard asks why I have no intention of buying the expansion, direct them to this post. I know this plays a lot like I’m taking my toys and going home but frankly I am beyond sick of seeing people boasting about their 4 GA Mythics while the game feeds me a steady diet of garbage.
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