Uber Lilith: one shot mechanic

I’m aiming to do this fight without cheesing.
Can the one shot mechanic be tanked by a barb with max armour and a lot of DR? Or it’s impossible and need evasion only?

Apparently it is tankable, here’s a post from a Rogue doing it last season:

https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/150ixsg/you_cant_tank_two_waves_rogue_facetanking_uber/

They didn’t know the baseline for surviving it, but there’s a build to look at, at least. It seems like you need “tanking old T100 dungeons” kinds of defense before it will work.

Rogue don’t tank, they dodge

To fight her without cheesing you’ll need either HUGE amounts of defenses to tank one 1shot mechanic and dodge the others, or a lot of mobility to properly dodge them all.

IMO the later is easier to achieve and allows you to focus on damage so you can interact with her mechanics the least possible while dodging stuff (no cheesing).
Most “normal” builds can tank every move she has except the 1shot stuff, so invest in a bit of mobility and you can complete the entire fight with only movement and dodge.

I’d suggest boots with multiple dodge charges +mov speed on it and on you ammy.

If your class allow it, also spec into invulnerability skills, so you can have a breather room once in a while or to dodge a very hard wave pattern, etc.

IMO this is the best way to fight her without cheesing. I also find super satisfying to dodge her waves consistently. Once you understand the patterns and how to manipulate where they’re facing, you can dodge multiple in a roll and it feels great.

I wonder if this still applies with the changes to resists. I’ve gone in with 10.7k hp, 6.8k barrier, capped resists, 5300ish armor and get trounced by the waves. I’d love to be able to facetank them with hp/barrier strength and capped resists.

People who’ve tested it before have said that only armor, the specific damage reduction type called “damage reduction”, not the conditionals, and fortify helped reduce the damage, the maxroll for the rogue surviving waves is stacking a ton of damage reduction on top. It’s probably physical?

I kind of want to try it this season but I made a puncture / subterfuge rogue for fun, I might roll a second character to do it on if the meme build isn’t good because it’s a blast to play.

Sure, but they also made the armor change recently so it wasn’t so all-encompassing to damage reduction. I’m wondering if the armor wasn’t over-compensating for something else. Or, it could just be armor. Who knows?

Just make a Ball Lightning sorc and melt her…oh sorry you asked for not cheesing her lol.

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My barb has 10k armor, 15k life, capped resists, the +armor on hit on my amulet, +20% of damage reduction to close, damage reduction, damage reduction while fortified, etc. Not sure how big my barrier is. And I still get 1 shot by the waves.

That rogue surviving was last season. This season, survivability mechanics changed.

damage reduction to close and damage reduction to fortified don’t work from what was reported.

Yes, survivability mechanics changed. But we’ve seen it done before, we also have a new gear tier with higher levels of straight damage reduction and more armor.

I think someone just needs to start trying and find out if it can happen again or not :slight_smile:

Impossible, its 100% HP dmg.

Tanking a 1 shot ability is the essence of cheese…

i meant cheesing with OP dmg. but yes, you are right, tanking 1 shots is a form of defensive cheese.

This fight is absolutely horrible

I was stuck on phase one until i had the damage,now im stuck on phase 2 i’ve given up at this stage.
Elden ring wasn’t even this hard

Is there a way to turn on damage numbers the enemies do to you? I think that would be the easiest approach. Because as I see it, I’m guessing either the damage reduction needs to be working, or it’s just not going to be possible to survive a shot now. I tried going full out paragon defense (skipping all damage buffs, and focusing on defense) with my barb, and still got one shot.

Yea, I’ve tried with lots of DRs and HP too this season (season 2). And none have worked, I think they prob made her Waves 1 shot no matter what now. I used to tank her waves in S0 and S1 on my barb with less gear

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No, they tank…
yawn