That’s on blizzard yea? Why should everyone be punished because blizzard doesn’t think QoL is important, I feel like you should be complaining to them that PC players have an advantage when they could fix it so easy
“You’re wrong. The end.”
Ok, bud, whatever you say. Have a nice night.
Its not vague. Its just technical. And that’s why there are people who specialize in reading these things.
Your lack of understanding of what the terms mean is not their responsibility. Just like if you misread a contract you sign and get caught by terms you didn’t understand, its not the other party’s fault.
Since you refuse to read the thread I’ll give you a little hint about what you missed. The TOS is too complicated for most people to understand, and if 90% of people are arguing with me including a greentext, it’s overwhelming proof of that.
You do realize that it isn’t up to either party’s interpretation of a legal contract, but that of the judge who is overseeing the dispute, right? Judges do not always agree on language and what it means, especially in legal contracts. This is why appeals courts often do not side with the original judgment.
Which is why it is in the best interest that the terms be legally accurate and technically apt, not that they be understandable by someone on the Diablo 4 forums.
The point of terms of use is not for YOU to be able to understand them, but for Blizzard’s rights to be clear to a legal specialist(judge/arbitrator/etc.) who might be called to interpret them. To that extent, they hire lawyers and technical experts to draft the words in a way that makes sure that the rights Blizzard wants to have be stated in a way that is legally clear, even if it may seem obtuse to an ordinary person.
While I don’t have much stake in this argument, I don’t think this is an accurate statement. It is not accessing the game. It’s moving the map using OCR, probably by looking at the minimap in the corner.
It is third party software, but it’s not interacting with or affecting the game. It’s not automation, it’s not messing with the games memory, it’s a separate program running separately and happens to be displaying over top of the game. Just like a discord or steam overlay would not be against the rules, I don’t think this could be either as it’s simply displaying a transparent map over top of the game and not accessing the game’s memory or interacting with the game itself. It’s not like a map hack.
It’s not attaching itself to “the game’s screen” it’s displaying at the top of your screen. There is objectively no game interaction. You are interacting with the map and the game. The overwolf API has OCR functions that are looking at your screen, but they’re not using them to automate gameplay or interact with the game itself.
I’d also point out given Overwolf’s status as a company including owning the most popular WoW addon database atm, it’s likely as they stated that they intentionally make sure their overlays aren’t violating a game’s TOS. Can you point out some super vague broad statement that might apply to a lot of things, sure, but you’re having to stretch a vague broad generalization to claim it’s violating the rules.
If Blizzard determined something from a company that size that has that much overlap with their own userbase was hosting something they didn’t like, they’d more than likely reach out to Overwolf and ask them to stop hosting it before banning presumably thousands of users.
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tldr;
To the addition of" if it helps you gain an advantage" then alt tabbing and using a browser out of game is cheating because it helps you gain an advantage you did not have before. rethink…
you are such a Karen. I utilize a second monitor as well, for helltide timers, maps, statue locations, and there is not a damn thing you or blizzard can do about it, as there is no violation of the EULA, which to point out, is not legally binding. I am just waiting for the first class action lawsuit to be submitted by people blizzard has banned from their games, which they legally purchased.
It has been over 20 years now. Has anyone ever been able to successfully sue when they broke the game rules and lost access to a game?
We don’t own the game, Bnet account, characters, items etc. We agree to follow the game rules or lose access to the game. Pretty simple. I would be interested in seeing someone successfully win a lawsuit saying they can cheat but still have access to something they don’t own.
Miss Cheeta -
2009 - EA lost a lawsuit despite a EULA/TOS. Neither are legally binding. ATT and T-mobile also lost their defense of EULA/TOS. It is not unheard of nor is it beyond the realm of possibilities for Blizzard to face such a thing.
I just want to say that the fact haveing positioning data on a map is considered cheating in this game is really sad, and speaks volumes to the massive issues this game launched with.
I did not say it was unheard of. Contract law states that a EULA (or other agreement) can’t violate other laws. Like, they can’t claim your first born child or something, or murder you. Also much more mundane things 
Getting kicked out for breaking basic cheating/behavior rules is not some sort of arcane legal gibberish though. We have all dealt with behavior rules and consequences all our lives.
A court ruling that rational rules can’t be enforced on private property would be…something.
Do you think a judge is going to rule that people have the right to cheat and not get removed from the private property game environment? Esp when they are very clearly told that cheating would result in getting them removed from the game?
Eh, pretty basic concept that you can’t pull and display live data if Blizzard does not want it shown.
I also agree though, that the map features are very lacking. I prefer an overlay map and really hope they create one.
Not taking sides on this one, But i want to point out that if this argument was in court it could very well lead to a re-definition of cheating in ‘games’ vs what information is given to the client/player and how they use it differently than intended. That would be a very interesting outcome.
That wasn’t the argument i was making at all. I’m just saying the information is already openly available to us in a sub-par format, and accessing that same information to display in a better way being against the rules feels weird. Im not saying its wrong for them to enforce that, Just that it feels kind of stupid I guess? Im also pointing out that this argument should never have needed to happen in the first place, as an overlay should have been included in the base game 110%
On that point we agree completely. However, poor design decisions still don’t give me the right to “cheat” without risk of consequences.
Alas, I just have to deal with it. I finally finished campaign yesterday and now need to go get all the exploration, altars, and side quests done. I really am going to have to set up a second monitor. I also get motion sick so can’t play for too long at a time. WTB zoom out!
At the end of the day it just comes down to reading memory being the issue since there are no official endpoints, right?
There’s actually a way around that now which people haven’t explored yet. Using AI to visually track your mini map and determine where you are, displaying that information either in an overlay or on another monitor. Obviously this is outrageously overkill 
but it’s always fun to come up with workarounds.
Edit: Like a leap in evolution of color and pixel tracking
Fancy automation! It would technically be against the spirit of the rules but as AI advances it is going to get interesting. Companies already have enough trouble telling the difference between a well programmed bot and a real person. Adding in AI to the mix just escalates the difficulty in keeping games cheat free.
Personally, I love QOL fixes, but if I had to bot to play a game, I would figure the game is not worth playing. I don’t pay for a game to let some other program play it, or help me play it. Heh.
People are going to push it though and it will be very interesting to watch!
Before AI was really a thing one scenario always came to my mind. What would companies like blizzard do if an AI wanted to play their game. Where does Bot end and the right to exist begin. I reckon we have 2-3 more decades of these philosophical questions to answer.
It would technically be against the spirit of the rules
This is a big can of worms because technically wading into contractual law at that point
Ai is a game changer thats for sure. As for the mini map example, that’s already possible with a bit of tweaking and runs on your own gpu.
The answer is to work with them and be on the front research end of the technology. AI playing games (Chess, Go, Starcraft) has been an open research topic for a long time.
I knew about the partnership on the research end before the tech got to the point it could beat SC2. Still cool, and it shows Blizz has been right up front on a lot of this.
This is Nov 2016 when it went public that there was a partnership.