The expansion destroys my previous progress

Get new gear, it’s what the game is about

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I experienced this on ptr. It wasn’t as bad as it sounds. Some of the legacy items still had better stats (lol). Took maybe an hour to get new stuff. I’ll try it again on live after I get a spiritborn finished up

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Grats on your first post being a complaint that was made WEEKS ago.

Catch up, dude.

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its crazy that online rpgs with patched content have been a thing for decades and this dude still thinks its 1999.

Look out – y2K is coming! :wink:

Don’t know how we avoided the apocalypse, but we did

On the one hand, the game is about getting new gear and new progression, so any expansion was bound to make your old gear obsolete. Your characters will still be stronger than a typical level 50 so you will be able to level faster and will then immediately unlock 200 paragon points vaulting you way ahead of the standard curve. For many eternal players, this will be a fun leveling period where they can get 10 more skill points and then can earn 100 more paragon. Having items that are worth finding during this period makes sense and would likely not have been the case for maxed-out characters chasing 3 GA items. The argument that all your time was wasted is silly because it will take a while to be replacing most of your items (though yes, you will have to replace weapons right away). Still, items with good affixes / tempers with their stats now maxrolled at 540 are going to be very strong items compared to drops. I don’t have a ton of sympathy for those who wanted their previous items to act as trophies - you can still admire the 4 GA legacy uniques you got. For every item that wasn’t previously perfect, you were still going to be needing to get a new version of that item. It doesn’t matter if you have 75% of a perfect item or 25%, to get to 80% you need a completely new drop. All that matters is what content you can clear. Decked out legacy builds will be able to clear higher content faster than “starting from scratch”.

On the other hand, making all weapons instantly obsolete sucks and is a key issue with the item level = weapon damage set up. Marking items as legacy seems pointless so it at least deserves an explanation (maybe it’s to prevent trade market confusion?). But the most egregious part is that the ranges on side stats like movement speed and attack speed and CDR all got dramatically reduced, so that even maximum rolls on those stats are weak compared to prior rolls and GAs are very weak. These stats didn’t need to be squished and it makes playing your character feel worse in most cases, even after you’ve unlocked paragon again.

On the gripping hand, they must have calculated that the number of people who will have a glass-shattering moment due to this is small and the value for the health of the game going forward is high enough that they wanted to rip the bandaid off here. No one has any powerful items that took more than 5 months to acquire. Acquiring items that are better than the ones well-geared eternal players start with will take a significant number of hours. People spend such wildly different amounts of time on the game that one person’s 5-month item is another person’s week-2 item, so the vast majority of eternal players weren’t close to the top of the curve in terms of what gear they had.

Still, for the specific type of eternal player who plays to have the strongest possible gear and to actually perfect that gear over time, marking as legacy highlights the fact that everything is obsolete now and that journey to perfection has a long way to go.

tl;dr It doesn’t matter if you have 75% of a perfect item or 25%, to get to 80% you need a completely new drop. All that matters is what content you can clear. Decked out legacy builds will be able to clear higher content faster than “starting from scratch”. It just sucks that your build will feel worse to play until you get some upgrades.

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Yuuup. This is why we can’t ever have anything nice. Blizzard makes progression based games that periodically reset the progression on purpose because they think you won’t continue to play the game if they don’t…

I am pretty much done with Blizzard and buying anything new. Currently investigating ways to get a full refund on D4 (base game + heroic edition upgrade). Game has been unplayable since season 1 launch, and I am tired of waiting for it to change.

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My lvl 100’s are now lvl 50 with 201 paragon points, eternal ofc.

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The only explanation ever provided is, “It just doesn’t work that way under the hood”.

It’s bizarre. Other than killing demons, Diablo is about finding and collecting loot and “Your items can and will be turned into junk by blizz updates” ruins that fundamental game mechanic. None of the other Diablo games have done this before.

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Gotta push people to want to play seasons somehow…guess nuking all things in Eternal is they way they went about doing it.

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I only kept my mythics to break for the sparks. Each season gear gets reworked and get slapped with the legacy. They still work but are internally broken. Just use the gear to farm new ones and rework them. Surprised people are complaining about the legacy tag when this is now season 6 and its happened each time.

Why is there legacy items at all? Because the expansion added nothing really so they had to retroactively make old items the new. Lol but whatever, usually expansions add new gear making old gear outdated, calling people lazy when blizzard just made old items the base for a new xpac, this is a season +xpac but we got seasonal content. Who is the lazy ones?

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So you got more stuffs to do in the game? So actually there are many more things for you to achieve and explore. More reasons to play the game .

Dunno but i see that as something positive. Im pretty sure games are supposed to be played and to be enjoyed. If you only find enjoyment when you finished the game and done everything there was to be done then i would recommend you to seek out single player offline games. With no updates and no live service.

No clue what you expect from a live service game. There is no secret that blizzard keeps working and updating the game and that expansion would release new content and gears. They been rly transparant about this.

True but I enjoy it way to much chief I think I’ll stay just for you :kiss:

Diablo 3 revamped their itemization how many times? Like you can’t even get your own facts straight, don’t criticize others when yours gets checked you baffoon

Ah sure. Enjoy D2. No risk of any changes there :slight_smile:

I too was affected by the update, that downgraded my Character.
went from level 80 back to level 50…all the hard work and long hours …" poof "
not happy …

Funny, I don’t recall reading about existing characters and items being nerfed when I pre ordered VoH in June. Had I known this, I would not have purchased VoH.

I remember when Bungle did this in Destiny 2, known historically as sunsetting. All the items that players had farmed and completed raids and quests to find and then have all those items smashed with the big nerf hammer.

As I recall, the number of players went from just under an million to 140k within a couple of months as players abandoned the game in droves and many players like myself started calling them Bungle.

Guess this is another path that Blizzard want to follow Bungle downwards. Sell lots of pre expansions then stick knives into player’s backs so that they leave? Actually makes sense from their point of view. Why do they want people playing the game now that they have our money?

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Curse of Blizzard. Different games, different development teams same toxic “works as intended” attitude. I wasn’t planning to play eternal but sometimes it’s fun to pew pew on old character. Guess what. Not anymore xDDDD. Lvl50 with zero paragon. Our precious uber unique is legacy garbage. Good job on ruining game, Blizzard.

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I get that it sucks to lose some work, but it’s a live service game, they said they were retooling the mechanics for a third time, etc.

I hope they’re done totally reworking the core mechanics. I hope from now on, the game essentially stays the same, but they continue to add actual content. ie: More environments, monsters, quests, maps, dungeons, items…All the stuff we like to look at, murder, and collect.