Sorc patch notes

That’s fine everyone plays differently but if you want to get a full min-maxed gear or quickly obtain gold for enchanting your items that you can easily spend 100m on, that’s how ya do it. Just boost people while leveling yourself and make a bunch of gold along the way

There’s no way I would have found a max CDR, 2DB, 2 Defensives, X amulet without that. Some pieces are a massive deal when attempting to hit crit, CDR, mana cost reduction or lucky hit breakpoints so you can further adapt your build.

Legendaries will drop more and more and soon enough you’ll have a crapload of aspects you need

I do not, and never will, nor will I pay for one. I help others to be kind and make friends, or Guild/Klan mates. You clearly play a different style of game than I do. That doesn’t make you better, it makes you different. You do you. I enjoy the company of people that enjoy the challenges of doing things, and the journey to greatness. I wonder, do you often chime in on the “lack of endgame” discussions? Because I do not, there is plenty for me to do.

I never said I wanted to quickly do anything though. I just enjoyed my sorc before the last patch, and now I have to run 4 defensive skills and a defensive ulti to stay alive. I was hopeful that things would improve, and IF they do I will be one of the first to say thank you, huzzah! But the paragon nodes still seem to push me into a direction that I would lose needed DPS in order to take those “wonderful” options.

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sincerely. sorc has many probs, and i say as one. survivability of course, the infamous broken res, the fact it’s harder then to stack armor and avoid the oneshot distant killers offscreen, etc. sure. these they should address, and i agree they didn’t (i don’t think they will any time soon btw).

then, there are other things i have seen become a staple among the audience, and these… i can’t suffer any longer. for example. you are a lev 75… who runs 4 defensive skills.

rly? you are no streamer. you are not doing hard stuff as uber lilith. you are no lev 100 running nm 60+ dungeons. so… you don’t need 4 defensives.

you are basically parroting for no reason extreme online metabuilds of those who actually really need that since they do extreme stuff… to run basic, trivial, boring, laughable stuff. wasting dmg potential without any need. that limits you all time, in a moment in which you could make far better use of those slots. providing you’d ever reached a point you’d really need to swap for more defense, that is, which itself is not really very likely.

my seasonal sorc is a lev 82. has 5,3k ap, 5,7k armor, and 4,2k life (before any boost). she has a single active defensive skill (tp). and frost nova on enchantment, procced by iceblades. oh yeah, and deep freeze, if we consider it a defensive instead of an ultimate or utility (i use it as ‘break in case of emergency’ button, and works well). with that i run without any prob whatever content, including nms past 30.

literally zero prob, the only reason i currently don’t run higher is that no sigil higher than 32 dropped for me yet (besides lev 32 means monsters lev 86, and the problem with that is not they become harder: they explode instantly anyway, like they were lower levs. it’s simply that there’s zero benefit, only disadvantages. glyphs exp after 3 lev difference doesn’t increase so no point running higher than that to level glyphs, and monsters xps after patch nerf, is lowered to insignificant benefit after they are more than 3 levs higher, so again no point running higher to get xps, it would only slow runs making the levelling slog even slogger without any profit, the opposite).

now, i do that with a single defensive skill. no use for 2, let alone 4. the rest of my slots is offensive skills. i do dmg, i don’t have to mind staying alive, apart looking where i put my feet. mobility is my defense, and it works perfect vs mobs or bosses. but with barriers and the fact at 70-80 we ar elowlev, mosnters don’t hit so hard that we can’t take a hit like it would be higher levs. depsite survivability being our class achilles heel, it doesn’t affect us yet. let alone at that extreme effect as you make it seem.

so if you tell me you need 4 def skills at a lwoer lev else you can’t stay alive, what i hear is you have a you prob. i already got a sorc at lev 100 preseason (again, no other def skill than tp on that one either) which runs easily nms past 50. it implodes as soon as anything touches her… but something has to touch her, first. until it doesn’t, she rules. so, stop copying for no reason this “4 defensive needed” nonsense. it’s meaningless 90% of the time for 99% of the players. and it makes whatever your other claims look silly all of a sudden, if paired with such comedy stuff. no 4 defensive skills until you are doing 60+ or uber lilith for breakfast, pls. then and then only i could take seriously whatever else you claimed along “i run 4 defensive skills yadda yadda… lev 75”.

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The acid test is timing how long it takes to fight bosses. Devs can buff whatever they want - mana regen 1 million %? Sure go ahead, wouldn’t help if I’m still going to fight each boss for 6-10 mins.

I’d rather consider it a death trap, since it’s impossible to input anything after it ends before dying.

I didn’t even know there was an official discord for Diablo 4 until a few minutes ago. I run 4 defensive skills because I HAVE to, not because someone TOLD me to. In wt-3 I ran Inferno and had Blizzard, both of those disappeared in WT-4.
Stop making up LIES to pad your likes. I asked a sincere question and was attacked almost for my opinion instantly.
The rest of those that disagree with me, have valid points, YOU, however, are just a liar.

Gotta time it so that u end cut it short just before mobs freeze. The response is a little sluggish so it will tick once more when u press the hotkey a second time, and mobs will be frozen nicely. Around 4s to freeze.

I can’t disagree, but it has saved me more times than not.

nah. sure, it has that little prob, at times, when it ends leaving you right in the mid of a bunch of exploding monsters for example who decide to die and blow up exactly in that moment. but that apart, it usually is fine (it resets all cds so you have a tp ready out of desperate situations, and you can also end it sooner anyway, a thing which at times can be useful - again, in the ‘oops, they are going boom’ example, there are times you can decide to end freeze quick and tp away before they do). still i agree it is a double edged tool (in that pure disgusting kiss-curse tradition somehow they decided to reserve us).

You’re like a sleepy baby girl who needs her Binky for nap time.

Lay off the sauce, baby. Your ignorant whining does nobody any good, and makes you look like a fool.

i run higher lev than you, with a single def skill. i’m no pro, streamer, etc. a normal sorc player, having no need, at all, for 4 def skills, nor any survivability prob, at higher lev than you. zero. the only laughable thing here is you claiming that we need 4 defensive skills lev 75. it’s simply laughable, false, fake, wrong, and looks stupid. it’s demonstrably absurd.

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I don’t care. You’ve already proved you are a liar, nothing you say holds any credibility with me.

LIES which make you a liar.

UPDATE My seasonal Sorcerer is now 78 and doing t-40+ just as easy as I was doing the late 20s and early 30s at 74… Perhaps YOU should be running 4 defensive skills. :slight_smile:

lol? yelling that you need 4 def skills isn’t proof of others being wrong. at all. if anything, it’s only proof that you don’t know how to play.

btw: repeating what others said countless times (even stones know by now of the usual 4 defensive skills claims), is parroting what they said, no matter if you didn’t even know they said that first. you are basically parroting what they said, and that’s it. a fact in the face of anybody with reading capability. no lies there: simple acknowledgment of reality. deny it, call other liars for point it out to you, keep ignoring the truth, if that makes you happier. you are just parroting nonsense and everybody sees.

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Wow just wow. Go away little boy, and we BOTH know I am not talking just about your behavior. You add nothing to this, I am sure you’ve often heard that.

There’s a possibility that the patch will help Sorcs survivability.

But until we see it in action we simply don’t know if it will help.

From a brief glance, it seems to be boosting fire/elec builds but not much else.

Incorrect. How did my post offend you? Like seriously, I have read and reread it to TRY and understand in what WORLD ANYTHING I said could be taken as a slight to ANYONE???
In my OP I LITERALLY say

Please tell me How in the WORLD you got so offended that you needed to come and insult me and LIE telling me i am trying for an online meta-build? I EVEN say

And YOUR suggestion is to come here and insult me, tell me I am bad? Thanks for the tips, you’re dismissed.

zero chance it will do anything for our survivability. the notes are out, we know what is going to do. since it goes to touch few paragon nodes ignoring meanwhile all major sticking points (and even those paragon nodes, we will hardly ever take, else we’d have less dmg thus even lower survivability: our life chances depend on how fast we kill stuff, more than anything else), it is perfectly pointless. patch is like the gem which they gave us, +res in season. lulz?! broken res, could give +100% res still useless, lol. so no, the patch will not be of any help, just tiny bits for chain lightning perhaps and fire, as you say, but nothing real on all big probs (for example res, or broken glyphs in paragon like electrocution or winter with no cold or lightning dmg nodes to be reached anywhere so usable only for the bonus but not for main purpose, or exploit savaged in comparison to other classes, etc). if anything, patch should prove us (yet again) that hardly any of the devs ever played sorc.

I know you were not responding to me, but this is exactly how I feel. Maybe those that have 200+ paragons will be able to shift their nodes around without suffering, but I can’t afford to drop DPS nodes to chase survivability. It is kill or be killed, almost instantly.

So many Sorcs Buffs…

Yet still can’t beat Barbs, Rogues, Druids, Necro in PVP…

Still da weakest class getting chased and bullied in PVP

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As a matter of fact, WHY are you basically saying the same thing as I did? I might not move as much as you, but I did fine before the last patch. Everything you just laid out here, in this comment, almost says the exact same thing I do, except I run a lot of defense skills. Do try to remember I used Blizzard and Inferno before WT4, so I am not used to being as mobile as you might have always played.
I am not at all sure what offended you that forced you to say all that you did to me, but you were wrong