Season Renown resets will cause most players to quit

barb 87 here, full renown.
Most of my friend already stop playing because of Renown system.
I can do it 1 time.
If blizzard aks me to do it every season i will simples play POE.
i do not know why this Devs make this king of content.
Not everyone want a boring grind of 30hrs, doind worthless content to get paragon points.

Solution: 1-Remove Paragon points from Renown system.
2- Carry Renown Acc Bound across Seasons.
3-Make it Easy to farm, like helltides, worldbosses and other events giving Renown

I really hope they do not do this mistake.

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map exploration only need to do 1 time… 1 time
not every new character that skip “Story/Campaign”

**Map should stay reveal, all way point, lilith altar, dungeon…
**Renown should stay collected !!! Not every new character reset Renown even though skill point, paragon point, hp potion is unlock for all new character on the account

100% - will not be doing the entire game again on a new character every season. I am enjoying the Rogue a lot, but I wont be rolling another one, or trying the other classes. I wont be doing the entire game again every 3 months … it wasn’t that fun and I don’t care cosmetic pixels.

I think the only thing that would make me participate if there was something like an auto group finder for dungeons and a lobby for nightmare matchmaking. I have played the entire game solo thus far and it is the complete opposite to how I played Diablo 1 and 2. I truly don’t like it.

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Im still missing 4-5 quests in each zone and then like 50% of dungeons in each zone.
And I’m already level 73.

Now, will I do this in each season?

LOL, hell no.
No way.
Nope.

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Diablo 4 is a live service game like Path of Exile or Destiny 2 and the like. The main appeal is the seasonal updates that every 3 months brings some new mechanic, game changes, and otherwise.

All of these games have some version of the “renown grind.” In POE I have to do the same 10 Act campaign again for the Nth time I’ve done for years and unlock maps all over again. In Destiny 2 every time they increase the pinnacle cap I gotta go RNG grind for upgrades in content I likely don’t want to do (and have done ad nauseam). This is all on top of an XP grind as well. It’s all boring, repetitive portions of the game to get you back to where you were.

I would be 100% thrilled if they decided to make renown carry over, but if they don’t it’s really just par the course for these kinds of games.

Making arguments that this kind of repetitive game loops will drive people off isn’t wrong, but it certainly hasn’t stoppped or made other seasonal live service games any less popular or successful. If that kinda game isn’t for you, Diablo 4 will likely never be for you because that’s the kind of game it wants to be. They want bursts of perpetual engagement, not you 100%ing the game and never coming back or looking at it ever again.

I’m not re-doing ish. The entire point of not playing season characters is so you don’t have to re-do anything. If they reset regular chars for this each season too, I’m out

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You don’t have to do everything too unlock all renown rewards i had everything unlocked in late 60’s. Still don’t have all side quest and dungeons many left still.
The statues you do after you take all waypoints you open mapgenie filter for waypoints and alters and just go from north to south or whatever i did them all in like an hour minus the few i already found by doing campaign etc (like 8 or something).
Also it’s nice way to collect flowers and ores along the way.
Once you have all the waypoints you can be anywhere on the map in like 1min the map ain’t that big really

I have already ignored the season.
There is so much to do in the game that, for me, a season would have to last several years.
Just gaining levels would get boring for me quickly.

The worst part of Renown system is covering the entire world map again, leaving only a few waypoints.
What’s the point?
That doesn’t make any sense.
We spent hours and hours finding every corner of the map to have a better QoL in a second rum with other classes and, WTF! The map is gone.
And now, you need to farm each corner again and again and again, for every new class you want to play.

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To play the game? Wut lol.

If players want to participate in the paid addon battle pass then they’ll need to play seasons.

That’s what you mean.

Eternal realms will always be available to play. You can actually very easily play without doing seasons. You okay lil bro?

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Whats always funny about comments from ppl like you, is that you can’t counter any of my points since you know they are all accurate… so accurate they hurt your delicate feelings…

So you attack me personally.

I’ll take that W. Thanks. Go find a safe space somewhere

I won’t quit, I just won’t do the renown farm all over again.

I’m not sure I’m going to finish renown once, let alone again and again (if that’s how it’s going to work). I understand it impacts your power, but I’ll take the hit. I might accidentally end up completing it, but I doubt it.

they need to swap renown rewards of 4 and 5. The obol reward for 4th unlock is super weak.

the first 3 go by pretty quick.

Blizzard will do the ‘aint nobody got time for dat’ meme and do a renown reset outside of lilith alters.

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No, the devs literally said they are basing their entire design around seasons. Their entire focus for content will be seasons. New items, new quests, new content, new mechanics, new features, all of it will be season only with a few things slowly trickled over to eternal realm “eventually”. The eternal realm is will essentially just have maintenance mode.

I love how everybody loudly declares “THIS ONE THING THAT I’M PERSONALLY VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT IS GOING TO CAUSE EVERYONE TO QUIT”

If any of you were ever right, there would be literally zero players already lol.

Just say what you want to say, and stop pretending like you represent everybody. You don’t.

never heard of fall out 76, anthem, new world, etc. have you?

ignore your community long enough and continue with unpopular decisions and you will have no one left to ask for improvements to the game, or according to you Lizzard apologists,“complain”

but im sure you Lizzard pay pigs would still love it when you are the only one left.

Yeah, I played all of those.

You know why they’re not smash hits? Because they’re just bad or mediocre games. It has nothing to do with whiners on forums and reddit.

I do not want to do sidequests again!!

Let me farm renown by doing dungeons, helltides, events. I dont mean for the first time but lets say I get 25 renown by running dungeon over and over again.